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Reduced drag vs. normal grille block 48 46.15%
Increased drag vs. normal grille block 21 20.19%
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh yes, the Crisis Fighter Pinto! I forgot about their massive air dam. (So much info passes in one eye and out the other...)



From the Car and Driver report:

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For maximum effectiveness, this one was designed with only two inches of ground clearance and as much of a wedge contour as possible to split the air in front of the car

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At seventy mph, that simple sheet of aluminum added 0.9 miles per gallon to our test Pinto. [From 14.5 mpg unmodified, at 70 mph]
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The Pinto is what I was thinking about also :

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At seventy mph, that simple sheet of aluminum added 0.9 miles per gallon to our test Pinto. [From 14.5 mpg unmodified, at 70 mph]
( 14.5 + 0.9 ) / 14.5 = 1.062 => 6.2% Improvement @ 70 MPH.

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What kind of support do you have on the bottom edge? I dropped my air dam really low with coroplast and the bottom edge had a tendency to fold in/over at higher speeds...especially when the air got dense with humidity.
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There's nothing running the full width of the bottom edge, but there are 4 folded V-shaped vertial wedges/braces supporting the face of the dam against the OEM bumper. Sort of like this:



The curved sides of the dam are reinforced at the bottom edge by a wide lip on the inside that goes from the outermost of the 4 braces, around to the edge of the wheel arch.

I've taken it up to 100 km/h so far, with no visible deformation ... only checked afterwards, though. I didn't rig my web cam for a live view.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I just realized the braces would be damaged if they hit something low down. I mean.. if they weren't cardboard... assuming a "good" version of this were made.

Better to have slightly shorter braces, and some sacrificial Home Depot lawn edging as the lowest point of the dam that could take a hit.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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so are the results in?


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I think you're going to get called a ricer. I can feel it. Someone is going to mistake that as a lame attempt at reproducing a body kit....
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I'd like to think that people might open their eyes at some point... instead, I find it more and more likely that I'll just close mine.

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I still can't get over a 4-banger Pinto only getting 14.5mpg. My 4x4 V8 F150 does better than that unless I'm towing. Used to have an F250 4x4 with a 460 V8 that got 13-14 NO MATTER WHAT. There is something wrong with this equation.

I don't remember them being THAT bad, 70 mph notwithstanding.

I got around 20ish with my 283 V8 a/t equipped Nova- supposed to be 55mph but often was closer to 70.

Was their car messed up?
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im sure if i pull up to a light and rev

someone would call me a ricer

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