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Old 01-02-2017, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mobil 1™ ESP x2 0W-20

Hi,

Is anyone already tried this new 0W-20 VW 508.00/509.00 spec oils here?

I am trying to buy some Mobil 1™ ESP x2 0W-20 for testing:
Mobil 1™ ESP x2 0W-20

Plan is to measure oil pressures with cold and warm engine and monitor how fast the oil level drops with this oil. I have at the moment in my daily Lupo 3l 5W-30 oils. At the moment this engine eats oil 1 liter to 10000km.

All comments welcome

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Old 01-02-2017, 07:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Its not ESP, but I've used Mobil 1 0W-20 Advanced Fuel Economy oil for every oil change on my Mazda CX-5 for 42k miles or 50,000 KM. It meet or exceeds ILSAC GF-5, API SN, SM, SL. I'm about to do an 8000+ mile oil change interval and have an oil analysis done on it. This is on a gas/petrol engine. I haven't seen the ESP version on the shelves locally.
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From personal expertise if you have a 5w-30 car consuming oil don't swap to 0w-20. Quite a butt thinner and uses that 1-2% savings you would normally see. Just my two cents. From looking though it's cst @ 100c is a 7.8 vs pennzoil ultra syn 0w20 at 8.3. What's the price difference? I know the pennzoil is sold at Wal-Mart for cheap.
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Hi,

Is anyone already tried this new 0W-20 VW 508.00/509.00 spec oils here?

I am trying to buy some Mobil 1™ ESP x2 0W-20 for testing:
Mobil 1™ ESP x2 0W-20

Plan is to measure oil pressures with cold and warm engine and monitor how fast the oil level drops with this oil. I have at the moment in my daily Lupo 3l 5W-30 oils. At the moment this engine eats oil 1 liter to 10000km.

All comments welcome
If your engine is "eating oil," I definitely wouldn't be going thinner on the top end. The cold temp though... you could maybe do some 0W-30 and that would get you a bit more MPGs without losing even more oil.
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Let's see, crudely converting for my Yankee brain, that's about 1 quart in every 6000 miles. I've had vehicles that needed oil more often.

Going from 5W to 0W would be beneficial for starting and FE in Finnish winter weather, but I'm pretty sure going to a 20-weight oil would increase the oil consumption.

That said, I have considered it on my Subaru. At 234,000 miles, it doesn't owe me anything, and I like experimenting. So I'll be interested to hear how the switch goes.
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Maybe just use the 0w-20 in the winter.
The fuel economy difference between 0w-20 and 5w-30 is around 1% or less.
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According to Mobil these new 0W20 oils are coming to stores in the beginning of 2017. VW says on some of their engines 1 liter every 1000km is still normal oil consupmtion so that is not my main concern if I lose 1 liter every 10000km, I already know that my current engine is not in mint condition anyhow. When the fuel consumption is low its almost never about the saving money, but who can reach the lowest fuel consumption figures.
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I'd you want to reach the lowest motul 0w15 is extremely thin. 100 degree cst is 5.1. Expensive too lol
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Ben there, Done that

I have use 0w-20 in a 2001 Ford Expedition with a 4.6 liter engine. I was using 15w-40 diesel oil in it because of the high detergent content. I also used a mixture of Naptha, ATF and denatured alcohol to help clean out the engine when I got it. I could feel the difference in driving. Seemed more peppier and got about 1.5 mpg increase.
We must remember that oil is not only a lubricant but also a coolant. Remember that thin oil can go places that thicker oil cannot. Thin oil absorbs and relieves heat fast than thicker oil making your oil cooler work better. It also starts better in colder weather. The viscosity of the oil can'tbe confused with the film strength of the oil.
I have used 10w-40 Mobil in my racing engines for 5 years and I have never experienced a bearing failure or lubrication problem.
Mobil Racing 15w40 has a lot more Zinc in it.

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