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Old 03-09-2008, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mopar to offer Diesel Swap kit for Wranglers

Was avoiding homework and came across this. Would be pretty sweet if it does come into production.

http://blogs.4wdandsportutility.com/...kit/index.html

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Many jeepers have been waiting anxiously to swap a diesel into their Jeep. Their low-end torque and trail driveability, not to mention their fuel economy, has put diesels at the top of many jeepers wish list.

The wait is almost over! Jeep Performance, a division of Mopar Performance, is working on a stand-alone diesel engine swap kit to drop the 2.8 diesel that first appeared in the Jeep Liberty into your TJ, YJ, CJ, or? While we'll have more details (and maybe a photo or two) after Jeep Safari in Moab, this is the real deal and is going to happen. Everything needed to install the diesel mill into a Jeep will come with the kit - including a stand-alone wiring harness and non-EGR motor! You may have heard that some Liberty diesels had problems that were caused by a malfunctioning Exhaust Gas Recirculation system. The Jeep Performance diesel swap kit's 2.8 diesel doesn't have the troublesome EGR, so expect it to be problem-free. We'll get you more information when we get it. Stay tuned..

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Old 03-09-2008, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jeep Performance, a division of Mopar Performance, is working on a stand-alone diesel engine swap kit to drop the 2.8 diesel that first appeared in the Jeep Liberty into your TJ, YJ, CJ, or?
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:P The only hang up I could see getting the VM 2.8 into a ZJ would be the Body computer if you guys have one. Else a 4.0 is a 4.0
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have to chime-in as a very-infrequent off-roader (and Jeep fan) -- but this has to be perfect to supply the the torque in 4-low applications. My only question/concern: does it have a turbo? That could be a flaw: turbo lag and all...

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i want one for my jk though :P guess ill just have to settle with puting one in my tj
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Few more bits of info. It will be turbo charged, but actually makes less power. (125/225) vs (190/240) of the 4.0. Along with a max cruising range of 372 miles and a 19 gallon tank, that calculates an avg MPG of around 19.5. Not that great for a diesel.

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The Mopar program is trying to use the T1 (military TJ) parts primarily. One of the biggest performance differences between that version and the liberty is the non-variable turbo. I haven't driven a T1, but I understand they do pretty well. The T1 version is WAY simpler, no EGR, no variable turbo, no Viscous coolant heater, no AC (I don't know what Mopar has planned for that), no cruise control, etc...It has about 1/10 the amount of wiring, and would be a great motor to have in a Jeep
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http://www.aav.com.eg/diesel_data.html

· Max crusing range
On road.............................km............... .600+ (372mi)
Off road............................km................ 460 – 500+ Terrain dependent
· Fuel tank capacity............liter ...........…. 72 (19 gallon tank, stock)
5 – Engine
· Type …................................................. ............................................Diesel
· Make …................................................. ......................................VM Motori
· Model …................................................. ....................................2.8L Diesel
· Aspiration .................................................. ......................... Turbo-Charged
· No. of cylinders …................................................. ................................... 4
· Bore x stroke (mm) .................................................. .................... 94 x 100
· Displacement (cm3) …..................................171 in³ ......................2800 cm³
· Compression ratio .................................................. ................. 17.5 ± 0.5:1
· Max power (hp @ rpm) …. 120 hp @ 3800 rpm...................90 kw @ 3800 rpm
· Max torque (Nm @ rpm) …. 225 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm.............305 Nm @ 2000 rpm
· Operating range (rpm) …................................................. ..... Idle - 3800 rpm
· Indicated mean effective pressure (psi) .................................................. 196
· Type of cylinder liner .................................................. ......................... Iron
· Engine oil capacity …................................................. ........................ 5.1 kg
· Turbo charge .................................................. ................................... Yes
Type.............................................. .....................Pneumatic Wastegate Valve
1-Make.............................................. .................................................. ...IHI
2-Model............................................. .............................................. RHF 4H
3-Number of stages............................................ ................................. Single
4-Max pressure of each stage (bar) ..............................................1,1± 50mbar
5-Inter-cooler .................................................. ...............................Air to Air
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I herd they were having a lot of problems with the 2.8L diesel.
Bad enough to were people were using the "lemon law" to return and break leases on 2.8L diesels that kept breaking down.
But I believe most problems were turbo and electrical related. So the simpler version of the 2.8 might work great.

The 6.5L chevy diesel swap is fairly popular to jeepers also.
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I wouldn't want that computerized wonder in my Jeep. I really doubt you could tune it for more MPG. I think these later diesels are too complex to last for the long haul.
Now if we were looking at a cummins 4BT 3.9L I'd be saving my pennys for one.
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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A friend has a Liberty diesel. He sent the ECU off to a place called Green Diesel and is loving it.

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