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Old 11-09-2017, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A comparison of how models have grown in size. I found it saddening. Think of the efficiency increases if everything hadn't gotten so wide and tall.

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Old 11-09-2017, 05:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nhsta & epa.
nhtsa- perhaps.

epa- no.

lard-ass Duhmericans- definitely.
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47 slides?! So ask me how you can make a good salary without college. It's making clickbait "news"! You start out as an apprentice baiter, then work your way up to journeyman baiter, finally you can be a master baiter and write for MSN. They just make it look so easy!
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Seems like the hoop you need to jump through for the content. sigh
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Yep cars keep gettin bigger so manufacturers have to keep introducing new smaller models.

Corolla got too big so yaris and echo were born.

Landcruiser got too big so prado and Rav4 was born. Current Rav4 is nearly as big as the landcruiser we had as kids.

Bmw 3 series gets too big so the 1 series is born.

There's may other examples too
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I will pass on the slideshow. Some people may like that format, but I find them tedious. I have found some sites that convert slideshows into a single page, but they did not seem to work very well.

According to Wikipedia:
The first Honda Accord:
Wheelbase 2,380 mm (94 in) sedan
Length 4,450 mm (175 in) sedan
Width 1,620 mm (64 in) sedan
Height 1,360 mm (54 in) sedan
Curb weight 945 kg (2,083 lb)

Compact car: 1976–1989
Mid-size car: 1990–present
Full-size car: 2008–2012 (North America, sedan)

1988-1991 Civic
Wheelbase 2,500 mm (98.4 in)
Length 156.1 in (3,965 mm) (hatchback)
166.5 in (4,229 mm) (sedan)
161.7 in (4,107 mm) (wagon)
Width 65.6 in (1,666 mm) (hatchback)
65.9 in (1,674 mm) (sedan)
66.1 in (1,679 mm) [wagon?]
Height 52.4 in (1,331 mm) (hatchback)
53.5 in (1,359 mm) (sedan)
56.1 in (1,425 mm) (FWD Wagon)
56.9 in (1,445 mm) (4WD Wagon)


I am pretty sure that the current Civic is larger than my 1990 Accord
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Back probably over 20 years ago. Car & Driver did an article about how car prices were skyrocketing. They compared an Accord from maybe 10 or 12 years earlier with a then current Civic. Why? Because the Civic had grown over the years so that its size and weight were comparable to the older Accord.
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Can we compare the prices of the 70s Accord, 90s Civic, and current Fit, adjusting for inflation?
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1972 N600 (2 door hatch), 1100lbs: MSRP $1473 ...8626
1977 Accord, (2 door hatch) 2018lbs: $4000 ...16157
1987 Accord LX (mid range) sedan, 2529lbs: $13,414 ...28904
1997 Accord LX, 2900lbs: $18,990 ...28962
2007 Accord LX, 3100lbs: $22,500 ...26563
2017 Accord LX, 3240lbs: $22,455

1977 Civic, ~1500lbs: $2800 ...11310
1987 Civic hatch, 1841lbs: $7500 ...16161
1997 Civic hatch DX, 2238lbs: $12,200 ...18607
2007 Civic, 2660lbs: $16,000 ...18889
2017 Civic hatch, 2915lbs: $21,375

2007 Honda Fit base, 2432lbs : $15,500 ...18299
2017 Honda Fit base, 2513lbs: $16,800
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Charts of: year vs weight, year vs 2017 dollar price, price vs weight

Oops, just noticed the price/year chart has the wrong title. Oh well, the axes are labelled correctly.

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