Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-13-2010, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
JonnyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 46

97RAV - '97 RAV4
90 day: 22.97 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Neutral Coasting 4X4

My car is full time four wheel drive and I've read that it is bad to coast in neutral with an automatic. The owner's manual doesn't say anything about it. I've done it at speeds up to 25mph and it re-engages into drive silky smooth. So should I not do it or what? Unfortunately, I don't really understand automatic transmissions.


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 09:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
Neddy Seagoon
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 24

TRD Vibe - '09 Vibe
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Coasting a 4x4?

I would say as long as the engine is still running while coasting you should be ok, the engine will keep the oil pump in the transmission turning over. Also look in the hand book to see if you can tow it with the engine off, if you can then that is a good thing as you will not damage the transmission.

Good luck, Neddy.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2010, 09:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
Northern most ecomodder
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Central AK
Posts: 571

reddxhatch - '95 Civic DX
Team Honda
90 day: 46.04 mpg (US)
Thanks: 18
Thanked 60 Times in 38 Posts
What does your owners manual say about flat towing?
__________________
Learn from the mistakes of others, that way when you mess up you can do so in new and interesting ways.

One mile of road will take you one mile, one mile of runway can take you around the world.

  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 11:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
JonnyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 46

97RAV - '97 RAV4
90 day: 22.97 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
The owner's manual shows a picture of the various ways to tow 4X4, however, none of them show the tires touching the ground. The owner's manual goes on to say that four wheel drive models must use a towing dolly under the wheels not lifted up by the tow truck. So I'm guessing this means no coasting in neutral?
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 12:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
Driving the TurboWeasel
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Steuben County, NY
Posts: 458
Thanks: 14
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
If you keep the engine running there's no damage to the transmission. The engine feeds a pump that sloshes ATF around while the engine is on.

I think they don't want you to have the vehicle rolling while the engine is off and in N.
__________________
2012 Chevrolet Cruze Eco 6MT
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 01:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
99metro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Briggsdale, Colorado
Posts: 291

putt-putt - '99 Metro Base
Team Metro
90 day: 58.76 mpg (US)

Dusty - '89 Bronco XLT
90 day: 13.89 mpg (US)

Cowboy - '90 Bronco XLT
90 day: 17.42 mpg (US)

HayHauler - '06 3500 ST
Team Cummins
90 day: 18.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 29 Times in 12 Posts
I agree with 99LeCouch. Leave the motor running and it's ok to coast in neutral. Flat towing with the engine off and neutral coasting with the engine running are two different animals.
__________________
2006 3500 Dodge QC/FB 5.9 handshaker
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2010, 12:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
JonnyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 46

97RAV - '97 RAV4
90 day: 22.97 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
It still just doesn't seem right to do it with an automatic transmission. Everything I read online says that it's harmful to the tranny. I guess I'll just have to do a manual transmission conversion


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coasting in gear vs. neutral (fuel cut feature) WTFM8 Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 28 05-29-2011 10:39 AM
Does coasting in neutral or coasting in gear save more gas? xbUser Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 19 10-19-2008 01:28 PM
Coasting in Neutral... what if you can't come to a full stop after? Sean T. Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 16 10-08-2008 12:11 PM
EV Mode Coasting - go to Neutral? cephraim General Efficiency Discussion 0 08-29-2008 10:21 AM
Coasting in Neutral Vs. Coasting in Drive observation fonque Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 21 07-17-2008 03:49 PM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com