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Old 10-05-2009, 01:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wanna figure out what shipping would be?

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I'm kind of thinking about converting a Ford 300 I6 block to diesel... of course, not using the original rods or pistons. The head, crank, and block can take it. I also think I might need a diff cam.

Hey, I've got like 4 blocks to mess it up on, though.
I'll weigh them tomorrow when I get to work and let you know.


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Old 10-05-2009, 01:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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If I can afford it, they'll probably sit on the shelf for years, just like those Ford blocks have... but someday, maybe my Son's kid will use them to save the world?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If I can afford it, they'll probably sit on the shelf for years, just like those Ford blocks have... but someday, maybe my Son's kid will use them to save the world?
If you can use them it would be great. As of now there just in my way.

I hope your sons kid can save the world with them that would be way cool.
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One thing I"m not really clear on - how does the VNT part work? Is it supposed to be boost referenced?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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One thing I"m not really clear on - how does the VNT part work? Is it supposed to be boost referenced?
To be honest I haven't a clue???LOL

It has a crazy ass looking turbine though. Plus it also has a built in solenoid?
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It's either boost or engine speed referenced. If there's an actuator on it, it's to control the variable vanes of the compressor turbine.

If you take one of the compressor housings off, you'll see that (probably after a good cleaning, if they're not already clean) the vanes of the compressor wheel move back and forth, effectively changing the angle of attack for the compressor wheel, which changes the pressure/speed ratio of the compressor wheel.

I know how they work... but not HOW THEY WORK. Ya know?

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It's not the compressor wheel that has movable vanes, it's the inlet geometry that is affected by the solenoid. The throat diameter changes to keep the turbo from over speeding or over boosting. There are a series of ranges that can be manually actuated that will allow for steady boost with increasing compressor speed, or allow for steady compressor speed with changes in boost.

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It's either boost or engine speed referenced. If there's an actuator on it, it's to control the variable vanes of the compressor turbine.

If you take one of the compressor housings off, you'll see that (probably after a good cleaning, if they're not already clean) the vanes of the compressor wheel move back and forth, effectively changing the angle of attack for the compressor wheel, which changes the pressure/speed ratio of the compressor wheel.

I know how they work... but not HOW THEY WORK. Ya know?

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It's not the compressor wheel that has movable vanes, it's the inlet geometry that is affected by the solenoid. The throat diameter changes to keep the turbo from over speeding or over boosting. There are a series of ranges that can be manually actuated that will allow for steady boost with increasing compressor speed, or allow for steady compressor speed with changes in boost.
That's kinda what I thought. They look like these... if my memory serves me right.TurboByGarrett.com - GM Duramax (2004.5 - 2009)
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That's kinda what I thought. They look like these... if my memory serves me right.TurboByGarrett.com - GM Duramax (2004.5 - 2009)
Hey, those look familiar. I sold the (bad) one that was on my old boss' truck after I changed it for him. That thing had some giddupengoe for a 5000+lb truck.

Don't want to take your thread too far OT, though. I'll wait patiently for you to get home from work tomorrow and report the good (hopefully fairly light) news.
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No its a 98 CI thing
Oh ok, I see guys like you at the track once in a while, they tell you they can beat you with their high tech v-tech bi-turbo honda that has $30k invested in it, so you beat them with your low tech $4k car, and then they tell you that their ride gets better gas mileage
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Oh ok, I see guys like you at the track once in a while, they tell you they can beat you with their high tech v-tech bi-turbo honda that has $30k invested in it, so you beat them with your low tech $4k car, and then they tell you that their ride gets better gas mileage
How fast is your 3.8 Mustang?????????????

I don't have 30k into my car. More like $4500.00

The last time I check thats what this forum is about is Fuel Economy.


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