02-15-2008, 09:55 PM
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News: New Hampshire May Raise Speed Limit to 70 & ticket slowpokes
Northeastern states have steadfastly held at the 65 MPH limit.
Now, New Hampshire wants to raise the limit to...
According to the theNewspaper.com,
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The New Hampshire state House Transportation Committee on Tuesday [15-Jan-2008] heard testimony on legislation that would make New Hampshire the first northeastern state to increase its maximum speed limit to 70 MPH since the federal government ordered the state to drop its speed limits from 70 MPH to 55 MPH in 1974.
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Isn't this backwards-incompatibility? The article goes on to mention that slow-drivers in the fast lane could be targeted for ticketing.
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02-15-2008, 10:04 PM
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I will call my representatives!
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02-15-2008, 10:59 PM
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I will call my representatives!
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That's the spirit!
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02-15-2008, 11:51 PM
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Well, we are at War. So, let's ration!
My Grandparents had a lot of these old items -- I recently acquired a lot of family history items from WWII. I just need to sort through it all -- I'm sure ration books are in there for sure.
This will go over like a cement balloon, but we really need to bring back a national limit. 55 is ideal, but with more aero these days and the tolerance of the public, 60 might be a good compromise.
Lots of people would be VERY vocal about it, but at least we have the AARP folks lobbying for a lowered limit
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02-15-2008, 11:54 PM
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I think they should change their motto to "live oil-dependent or die."
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02-15-2008, 11:56 PM
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32 states have speed limits of 70 or more. Texas you can do 75 mph which really means 85 mph. Did not our President say we need to break or dependence on oil? This would be a good place to start.
Here's the list for those that are interested.
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02-16-2008, 12:09 AM
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IIRC Arizona is 75mph too....
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02-16-2008, 12:11 AM
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Yep it's on the list. 13 states have speed limits of 75 mph. 
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02-16-2008, 12:21 AM
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Do'h, totally missed the list link 
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02-16-2008, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Silveredwings
I think they should change their motto to "live oil-dependent or die."
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Many NH highways are actually 55 MPH. For example, all of Rt 3. This will probably apply to only a few like 95, 93, and 89.
That doesn't mean I agree with it. This will reduce revenue from Massachusetts drivers 
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02-17-2008, 10:16 PM
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Wow - coincidentally, I just found an article that the province of Manitoba is also considering raising the freeway speed limit - from 100 kph (62 mph) to 110 (68).
Currently 110 is the highest limit in Canada (coincidentally - Alberta ... Canada's Texas! ... and Saskatchewan). Everywhere else the freeway limit is 100.
Manitoba government's plan to raise highway speed limit getting rough ride
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...842962-cp.html
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WINNIPEG - The Manitoba government's plan to raise its highway speed limit got a rough reception at public hearings Tuesday, as truckers, environmentalists and members of the public warned the change will lead to more crashes, deaths and pollution.
A consultant's report done for the province said the higher speed could result in an extra five serious motor vehicle accidents over the next three years, as well as increased greenhouse gas emissions. On the plus side, the consultant's report said, faster car and truck traffic would boost the economy by millions of dollars a year.
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I'd also oppose raising speed limits if it were an issue where I lived.
You go, Ben! Take action!
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02-18-2008, 12:28 AM
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WTHWT thinking.
it will boost the economy in the mid-east.
i did hear george w. ask people to obey speed limit laws, recently.
everyone would get better mileage if they all just drove the speed limit, its like hitting a wall when a big vehicle passes me, if there is no one else coming, sometimes I will swing in behind them until they break the draft.
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02-19-2008, 10:33 PM
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Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit.
And yes, people driving slow in the fast lane should get a ticket.
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02-20-2008, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by boxchain
Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit.
And yes, people driving slow in the fast lane should get a ticket.
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OK, a couple of questions...
Setup: speed limit 60, 2-lanes one direction with contolled-access.
A Semi-Truck is climbing a hill at 45 MPH, and I choose 55 mph (under the limit). So, I pass. Minimum is 40 mph. Do I deserve a ticket for passing?
But yeah, inertia limits (similar to Europe) are definitely warranted -- but hard to enforce in the private segment vs. truck travel. The "peaved" segment would definitely pile up, though. I don't waste time and accelerate to pass -- yes... it's inefficient, but avoids anger on the part of "restrained speeders".
Further, I understand that some "enjoy" teaching these folks a lesson, but remember this: you cannot change individual behavior in one simple example. Road rage is NOT worth it. Education and forums like this are the place to educate and inform...
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02-20-2008, 12:24 AM
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Wasn't new hampshire one of the last states to keep using a 55mph speed limit? That may have been a log time ago.
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02-20-2008, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by boxchain
Personally I think there should be an inertia limit (mass * velocity) instead of a speed limit.
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I like it!
Bicyclists could ride as fast as they want!!!!!
(PS: Yes, I do know of several real-world examples of when regular bicyclists have gotten speeding tickets - 25 mph zone with a steep hill....)
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02-20-2008, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bennelson
I like it!
Bicyclists could ride as fast as they want!!!!!
(PS: Yes, I do know of several real-world examples of when regular bicyclists have gotten speeding tickets - 25 mph zone with a steep hill....)
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OK what is a inertia limit and how does it work?
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02-20-2008, 01:00 AM
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OK what is a inertia limit and how does it work?
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See post 14 - Mass*velocity. The less you weigh, the faster you could legally go.
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02-20-2008, 01:01 AM
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Wasn't new hampshire one of the last states to keep using a 55mph speed limit? That may have been a log time ago.
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Ironically, Pennsylvania was the last State to adopt 65. They even had signs advertising "Still 55..."
It wasn't until the DOT Feds threatened to withdraw funding, that the Commonwealth was forced to adopt the "National Limit".
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