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Old 04-15-2009, 06:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I dont know if the US spec version has the same tranny with different gears, or a whole different tranny than the EURO and JDM version, but that could be a possibility. Seems like an pretty expensive solution though, I'm not sure the payback period would be worth it.


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This probably doesn't help much, but I think I found the gear ratios for a previous gen Fit (Jazz) :

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This probably doesn't help much, but I think I found the gear ratios for a previous gen Fit (Jazz) :

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I found gear rations for the last-gen Fit: 2007 Honda Fit- Specifications - Honda - Press Releases - Selected Story

It looks like the Fit's gearing is taller than the Jazz, but the Fit has more power than the 88 PS Jazz.

I understand that Honda wants to make the fit seem sporty by giving it low gearing. There is a model of the Fit called "Sport." But, why does the Base model have the tall gearing too? I think Honda should differentiate the base and Sport with different gear ratios, and thus different acceleration/performance trade-offs.
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Yeah, I wish they at least offered an "Eco Pack" for extra buckaroos that included a taller tranny. But, I think it's part of their "minimal option" factory assembly model (my term for it anyway). Any tranny you want as long as it's the same, .

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Yeah, I wish they at least offered an "Eco Pack" for extra buckaroos that included the taller tranny. But, I think it's part of their "minimal option" factory assembly model (my term for it anyway). Any tranny you want as long as it's the same, .

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Honda loves to rip you off with dealer-installed accessories. How about a dealer-installed eco 5th gear? If I were going to pony up for a new car, I'd be willing to pay up to, oh, $400 for the gear swap. Especially if it doesn't mess with the warranty.
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Honda loves to rip you off with dealer-installed accessories. How about a dealer-installed eco 5th gear? If I were going to pony up for a new car, I'd be willing to pay up to, oh, $400 for the gear swap. Especially if it doesn't mess with the warranty.
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hmm.. that data seems to conflict what I read (in several places) about the low gear ratios.
Jazz 5th gear = .805
<08 Fit 5th gear = .757
09+ Fit 5th gear = .727

So it seems like of the bunch, the 09+ Fit 5spd. already has the best gear that I can get. Unless the same tranny is used in another vehicle with different ratios.
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hmm.. that data seems to conflict what I read (in several places) about the low gear ratios.
Jazz 5th gear = .805
<08 Fit 5th gear = .757
09+ Fit 5th gear = .727

So it seems like of the bunch, the 09+ Fit 5spd. already has the best gear that I can get. Unless the same tranny is used in another vehicle with different ratios.
Hmm, I wonder if an 09+ 5th gear would work in a last-gen transmission.
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Hmm, I wonder if an 09+ 5th gear would work in a last-gen transmission.
Who cares, that doesn't help me! lol
Besides, the difference is soo minimal you would never see a measurable improvement.
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hmm.. that data seems to conflict what I read (in several places) about the low gear ratios.
Jazz 5th gear = .805
<08 Fit 5th gear = .757
09+ Fit 5th gear = .727

So it seems like of the bunch, the 09+ Fit 5spd. already has the best gear that I can get. Unless the same tranny is used in another vehicle with different ratios.
I just was googling, so it is hard for me to tell which country my data came from. I do think there are multiple trannies (or "just the gears, ma'am") tailored for the markets.

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