Open discussion on using TC-W3 oil as an additive

[oil pan 4]

I filled up the lincon and added a small 6oz bottle of 2-stroke oil to its gas, since I usually dont put many miles on this car my self it should be a good A-B-A test subject.

[tru]

I tried this for a while, but mixing oil is lame and takes a fair amount of time. the results didnt show up in the 3-5 tanks i tried it on...i think its a solution looking for a problem

[Beau]

Originally Posted by tru

I tried this for a while, but mixing oil is lame and takes a fair amount of time. the results didnt show up in the 3-5 tanks i tried it on...i think its a solution looking for a problem

I am surprised that mixing the oil takes you much time. Using my small glass pirex mixing vile and a long funnel, it takes me about 60 seconds.

Re no results; some who wrote into the LS1 foum said the same thing; they got nothing, while others report modest gains.

Did you notice any difference in idle or engine smoothness?

[darcane]

I have been using it for a couple years now. IMO, any fuel economy gains are just an extra, as I use it as a fuel system and valve lubricant and cleanser.

I keep 3-4 2oz bottles in my car. When I fill up I round to the nearest 5gal increment and put in either 1/2 a bottle or a full one as appropriate. It took me a minute or two to fill the bottles from the gallon jug of oil and only a few seconds to dispense at the pump.

I haven't seen anyone write about it before, but I imagine it would be a viable substitute for lead in old engines as well. I plan to use it in my old vehicles ('68 Chevy pickup and '67 Mustang) that don't have hardened valves seats. However, I put so few miles on those, it will be hard to see any effect.

[Duffman]

Been doing it for 3-4 years on my powerstroke diesel usually every second tank. I cant comment on the FE, but I am doing it for lubricity anyway.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by darcane

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I keep 3-4 2oz bottles in my car. When I fill up I round to the nearest 5gal increment and put in either 1/2 a bottle or a full one as appropriate. It took me a minute or two to fill the bottles from the gallon jug of oil and only a few seconds to dispense at the pump.

that's what I love about this forum!
What a great idea!!! and so simple.

I haven't seen anyone write about it before, but I imagine it would be a viable substitute for lead in old engines as well. I plan to use it in my old vehicles ('68 Chevy pickup and '67 Mustang) that don't have hardened valves seats. However, I put so few miles on those, it will be hard to see any effect.

A man after my own heart! love the old mustangs!

[RH77]

After reading several comments, it appears as if it doesn't cause any major problems, very few minor complaints, several positive remarks, and variable responses for FE.

The plan is to first use the Integra as the testbed for monitoring issues and any noticeable trends, at 1oz per 5 gallon (or approx 2.3oz for a full, 13.2-gallon tank). I suppose the only empirical data I can post is FE. The rest will be observations, taken as impartially as possible.

If it seems to work well, then a single-blind test is planned for the TSX (my Wife fills that one sometimes, so I'll have to add it in estimated quantities, from the 17.1 gallon capacity if I miss it). FE is tracked, but it also has a noticeable vibration at idle -- not necessarily rough, but enough to note. I drive the car from time-to-time, and would attempt the same impartiality. It is due for a tune-up, so it should be a good candidate. New tires with alignment will require couple of cold-weather fills to round-out variability. I may select a spark plug to photograph "before and after" conditions.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other data points that are easily tracked...

I look forward to some testing again!

RH77

[a8ksh4]

darcane & Duffman, you haven't had any trouble passing smog after running the 2-stroke mix?

[darcane]

Originally Posted by a8ksh4

darcane & Duffman, you haven't had any trouble passing smog after running the 2-stroke mix?

No, but I don't think I have quite as strict of standards to worry about. Our emissions check for OBDII cars is just checking the gas cap and connecting to the OBDII port. If the ECM doesn't report any codes, you should be a pass here.

If you are concerned, stop using it a tank or two before the smog check.

[tru]

Originally Posted by Beau

I am surprised that mixing the oil takes you much time. Using my small glass pirex mixing vile and a long funnel, it takes me about 60 seconds.

Re no results; some who wrote into the LS1 foum said the same thing; they got nothing, while others report modest gains.

Did you notice any difference in idle or engine smoothness?

No differenece in smoothness, that was my main reason for trying it actually.

as far as time, i have to carry around a funnel, oil, and measuring device...then i need a clean way to store it in the vehicle. to me, it just wasnt worth it...perhaps i need to try it for a longer time period?