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Old 09-26-2008, 01:50 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Phil: So far the MIB have been leaving me alone. Maybe they feel some affinity to me for driving a black car.

Schultz: good idea. I think I still have the mirror & mount from the red ForkenSwift car.

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Weather was pretty ideal this AM (light winds) so I headed out to my test route for an A-B-A comparison.

Unfortunately, the replacement cruise control crapped out before I finished the B runs. I kid you not. The first unit worked fine for a year (?) before becoming unresponsive; the second one worked for less than an hour. Same symptoms.

So here's the incomplete data @ 55 mph (88.5 km/h), where A = Kammback on; B = Kammback off. Units = mpg (US)

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Run ... East ... West ... Average
A1 .... 60.9 ... 57.7 ... 59.3
A2 .... 60.4 ... 59.4 ... 59.9
A3 .... 61.2 ... 56.4 ... 58.8

Average of A runs = 59.3

B1 .... 57.2 ... 56.5 ... 56.9
B2 .... 57.6 ... 54.9 ... 56.3
... cruise control stops working ...

Average of B runs = 56.6
No conclusions should really be drawn from this, because it's incomplete. But looking @ just the available figures, the Kammback runs were 4.9% better than the non-Kammback runs.

I really ought to get something to measure sound as well, because there seemed to be a noticeable difference in wind noise between the A & B runs.


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Old 09-26-2008, 02:13 PM   #222 (permalink)
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I'm starting to consider this a plausible addition to my protege5 hatchback... I like the plexi one next door.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:48 PM   #223 (permalink)
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Darin,the incomplete data set looks very promising.I would like to think that after the cruise-control issues(bummer!) are resolved,that the mpg trend will resurface.The Metro looks really good.If bondo lived down the street,he could pull a mold off the back of the car and reproductions could be layed-up for those with Metros that don't have the facility to do it themselves.If I didn't know what was going on,and just saw your car in passing,I'd presume it was an OEM or SEMA aftermarket part.Seamless!
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:47 PM   #224 (permalink)
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Noise can be a surrogate parameter for turbulent drag. Turbulence is noisy.

Much lower noise was how I knew I wason the right track with my bed cover. That funky-looking thing I have is very quiet. An open bed roars at you.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:07 PM   #225 (permalink)
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ooo - I totally missed this thread

Metro, some reading for you on moldless sandwich construction by Burt Rutan (you know, the spaceshipOne guy )
http://www.actechbooks.com/products/act431/

Unfortunately, I haven't found a digital copy - check your library.

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As for your earlier comment on the black paint showing ripples and such... You're totally right - it's just more time (and some fairing putty) to get it smooth. Using proper sanding implements (sandpaper glued to a long straight 2x4 and implements that match the curvature of your rounds) helps a whole lot - necessary, even.

Because I'm thinking about it (recently saw this in application) - a cheap way to add stiffeners to compound curves is to use foam tape or adhesive weather stripping - then glass over that. The foam conforms nicely and is available in a bunch of thicknesses (bonus for lightweight and cheap)

It looks great though - congratulations Of course, the creator is also the most critical.

And if you didn't think about this already - you now have a working prototype to make a mold and tool from I'm not precisely sure how big the market would be though
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:48 PM   #226 (permalink)
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could someone do the ideal teardrop thing with a 92-95 civic hatch thats stock (not the aerocivic)
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