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Old 06-13-2018, 04:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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You advertise the 50 cent cup to get people into your coffee dealership, where your employees upsell them to the 5 dollar cup!



Or you sell them the 40 cent cup, but with $200 floor mats, $600 rustproofing, and finance it all in house at 8%!
20 years ago that worked but knowledge and access to prices have killed all these scams. That definitely was a reason every dealer ordered at least one bait car.

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Old 06-13-2018, 05:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Agreed - the Echo's cluster position was odd, but I quickly got used to it in the one I had briefly. I actually kind of liked the lack of visual "buffer" between me & the road -- interesting feeling.
I could get used to having the instruments not directly in front of me, for the right car.


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Speaking of that car...

Any bets on how long the Yaris (Echo's successor) lasts in the U.S.?

Look at this year's sales numbers for the hatchback:
  • Jan: 174 (down from 1330 a year ago)
  • Feb: 136 (1057)
  • Mar: 144 (1377)
  • Apr: 131 (1522)
  • May: 139 (852)

These are horrid numbers for the U.S. market size. (EG. Mitsubishi sold over 3k Mirages last month.)
Whew! I feared the worst when clicking on this thread. I'm still entertaining the idea of buying a used Mirage someday, and folks need to keep buying them new if I'm going to do that.
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The Torque app has a HUD feature that reflects the image off the windshield. I haven't tried it, so I'm not sure how effective it is.

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and finance it all in house at 8%!
For ninety-six months.
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I could get used to having the instruments not directly in front of me, for the right car.
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I loved looking st this gauge cluster... it was less about the cluster than the car though... it drove friggin great, was easily the fastest thing I’ve owned so far
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People purposely purchasing cars with automatic transmissions--unless they have a note from their doctor, that is just stupid.
When you live in Asia and 9/10ths of your commute is crawl forward for three seconds, stop for thirty, crawl three, stop thirty, crawl... then you get sick of clutching really quick.

I practice clutchless shifting due to the sheer grueling boredom of my commute.
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I thought that was a cool trick until my transmission went out at 222,000 miles. I caught myself doing that on my next car, but managed to stop.

It was interesting, I learned how to shift without my clutch, my clutch went out, and my mechanic said he could not fix my car unless I got it to him. Then one day I wondered what happened if I started the car with my foot on the accelerator, but not the clutch. The car started and accelerated quickly!

Then my new clutch went out and I needed to get my car to the mechanic.

I grew tired of Autozone's lifetime warranty and paid for what was supposed to be an OEM one. That one lasted longer than the previous ones, but I hardly used it anymore.
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I thought that was a cool trick until my transmission went out at 222,000 miles. I caught myself doing that on my next car, but managed to stop.

It was interesting, I learned how to shift without my clutch, my clutch went out, and my mechanic said he could not fix my car unless I got it to him. Then one day I wondered what happened if I started the car with my foot on the accelerator, but not the clutch. The car started and accelerated quickly!

Then my new clutch went out and I needed to get my car to the mechanic.

I grew tired of Autozone's lifetime warranty and paid for what was supposed to be an OEM one. That one lasted longer than the previous ones, but I hardly used it anymore.
Given Asian traffic, I expect the engine to go before I get that far.

When your clutch freezes due to flood intrusion, it's a useful skill.

Otherwise, yes, it is a very nasty habit.
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If I correctly shifted without the clutch 99% of the time, the misses added up.

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