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Old 03-07-2018, 03:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Suggested Media Diet

I want to rant about this, but you go first...


https://boingboing.net/2018/03/07/su...edia-diet.html

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"The media we eat for 12 hours on average a day constitute the bulk of the ideas we consume," Faris says in his essay. "What’s the right balance for a healthy mind?"
I visit Boing Boing every day, they were one of the first news aggregators. Mostly nowadays for Cory Doctorow, the rest of them have mostly fallen off the left side of the pier.

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Old 03-07-2018, 05:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That was quick. Top = bad? Base = good?

Youtube is social media? I'd have it under Education Hobbies Nonfiction and Journalism. I find all those things there.

NPR NYT and WSJ should be under Consumption Decreases Wellbeing.

I hadn't noticed Fox's absence. They sort of stand apart from (what I consider) the rest of TV news.

What do you think about Styxhexenhammer, Lionel Nation or H. A. Goodman or Dave Rubin?
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I've never heard of the media outlets at the top section of the pyramid. NPR is usually more interested in pushing an agenda than discussing ideas; I'd leave it in the high consumption level, but with the disclaimer that much of the content is not objective, nor disinterested.

Art and theater being the placed as the best sources of ideas is irrational. The whole point of art and theater is to evoke emotion, which we (should) all know is usually irrational. What to do about something should have very little to do with how you feel about it, and everything to do with what you know about it.

I've listened to a little Lionel Nation at your recommendation, and enjoy it in small doses. Too loud for my taste. Dave Rubin is what it's all about. I listen to Shapiro more than anyone else, but mostly because I can casually listen. A little loud for my taste, but his logic and criticisms have some balance despite his strong conservatism. Still working my way through Jordan Peterson content. As for the fast food media outlets, I avoid them unless it's already playing somewhere else, such as a gym locker room. Their use of children to discuss the validity of civil liberties speaks to their vapid ideas on the matter, and assumes that their audience likewise lack depth of thought.

I used to have Newsy on as background noise since they rapidly cover a range of topics that may be interesting subjects of further research.
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Never heard of Infowars? Never heard "They're turning the frogs gay"? That's entertainment!
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Art and theater being the placed as the best sources of ideas is irrational. The whole point of art and theater is to evoke emotion, which we (should) all know is usually irrational. What to do about something should have very little to do with how you feel about it, and everything to do with what you know about it.
Art and Theatre are viral communication. They can be used to enlighten as well.

search_query=donald+duck+in+mathmagic+land

oil pan 4 — I watched RT and Max Keiser pretty reliably up until the 2016 election cycle. Maybe I miss Abby Martin worry about my browsing history. Lionel can get tedious, the umptyeth time he quotes Leo Tolstoy — 'History would be a wonderful thing - if it were only true.' Mrs. L is being lured out of the shadows.

I really haven't watched TV since John Prine sang Spanish Pipedream. I had to shed 120lb of back issues of HotVWs. https://hotvws.com/ The online editions are so much better.

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Hey, it's The Lounge. Let's use art to entertain and enlighten:


It turns out there's an Alex Jones Folk Cover Song Contest. There goes my evening.
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What if you watch a BBC documentary about the New York Times on Youtube?
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I have a friend that reckons he'll discern the truth by 'triangulating his way' around inside the box defined by main-stream media.

I use Youtube to follow (among others) Tim Pool and let him sort it out. He posts once a day on current events and he's really rigorous in parsing out the day's news stories. This one is a good example, because at 4:21-6:00 you find out why you'd have to be cra-cra to let Snopes have it's hands on the levers of society's fact-checking.



In the Alex Jones Folk Cover Song Contest, the winner was a rap version that's pretty well paced, but I like the smooth jazz version and Sgt.Pepe's Spicy Meme Club's rendition.
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I do not know how to describe my impression of NPR; it just seems like its followers are a different type of elitist, but I tend to change the frequency quickly because it is forcing one side and only giving partial truths.

Is Wikipedia a better source than Snopes? Supposedly Wikipedia is self-correcting. Who keeps Snopes in line? I have heard of Infowars, but I never paid attention to it. I definitely never heard that particular... story.

I thought YouTube was mostly clickbait and reaction videos.

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I was going to make an '...according to Wikipedia' joke but the reference was buried in the video.

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Youtube shows you what you want to see. You can test this by opening up a Private window. Then you see a generic selection.

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