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Something for you guys to think about.

Saw this picture in a google search. Thought you guys would like to see it and try to figure out how it works.


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Old 10-30-2009, 02:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Very nice picture. We've talked about it, but no one has done it yet (to my memory).

I think the main issue is solving what happens to the suspension. I am guessing from the picture that the cover turns, but does not "bounce" with the wheel.

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Under heavy camber deflection, the skirt might actually fit in there when the suspension bounds. That would be HEAVY camber deflect, though.

I'd be more likely to think that it's a McPherson setup (where the strut makes part of the control setup, as well as suspension) where a splined sleeve is used over the housing of the strut, so that the strut can still bound and rebound, while the skirt can remain in the same place, but follow the wheel as the strut turns with it.

Not sure how exactly one would make that work, though.

I can't think of anything else that would be simple to implement, though I'm sure I'm missing some idea that would just barely make it feasible.
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It has to be fixed to the bodywork and merely rotates on a pivot. Carlos is right- the pants don't go up and down with the suspension. I can almost guarantee it's linkage actuated.
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You mean like another steering rack that controls the skirt, but doesn't move in relation to the suspension?
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More like linkage that splits off from the steering arms prolly
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Looks like you'd have to come off the top spring seat of the strut assy, and bring the bracketry down. Probably not much room to do that in most cars.
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Sliding pillar suspension perhaps, like that on a Morgan ?
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More like linkage that splits off from the steering arms prolly
Wouldn't that still require that it move with the suspension? Cuz the steering arms do...
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They ain't no struts on cars that old.

There are many ways to hook onto that thing that allow upndown.

Looking at it closer, the tire is quite large compared to the opening and pants. I'd think the pants don't go over the tire, they just cover the outside and have enough edge to enclose the opening for at least some turn angle.
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