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Old 03-18-2017, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Back in a prior century, I worked on a project to manifest a sustainable small town. It was called Cerro Gordo, above Dorena Lake, East of Cottage Grove, OR, USofA*.

TLDR a bunch of Californian ex-pats worked their way North looking for some land with opportunity. Prior to settling on Cerro Gordo ranch, they looked at an island in the bay at IIRC Newport. They might have succeeded there; but the ranch had an easement for a BLM road and they were trying to create a town without cars. \_(ツ)_/ My hope was that they suceed, so I could start up a car rental property at the designated car ghetto. All air-cooled VW, of course.

A lot of people poured their savings into it; mostly equestrians and would-be railroad tycoons (the tracks are gone now, replaced by a bicycle path.). I was one of the few that made money, by working on the Cerro Gordo Construction Company.

Anyway the small-scale undercapitalized approach didn't work (it takes three permits to build a house, guess how many to build a town). Here's an example of what bottomless capital can achieve.



Some notes in no particular order:
  • Rental of business space pays everybody's utilities. Zero maintenance or utilities expense.
  • The solar panels are laid flat, accepting some efficiency loss for the architectural cause.
  • The 'Fan and PAD' cooling system they've developed is basically a swamp cooler. The fan part is all wrong.
  • The serpentine biofilter swale is similar to our local bus stations; but could benefit from the insights of Viktor Shauberger. Cross-section of the serpentines is wrong.
  • Condominium purchases include a 10K Euro incentive to buy an electric car.

After the low-cost well-integrated (architecturally and economically) solar electric, it's mostly about water management. Compare:



This is more the level Cerro Gordo operated on. Composting toilets and cob, but there exists at least one house that will last 300 years.


*Off-topic; but the first thing I found online (then stopped): How Cerro Gordo Mt. got its Name

Edit: Aww, yeah: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...storiesbysteve

I'd forgotten about the Dolittle family wagon tracks.


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Very nice find. Watched the first video, not enough time to watch the second yet. Definitely a great idea, but I agree on some of the points you mentioned. The panels not being at the optimal angle, would bug the heck out of me, I prefer efficiency. I'm even building my house roof for the correct solar angle amd orientation lol. I can't say anything about the fan/pad thing because I don't know much about those systems.

I have to wonder though if the whole city would be a giant heat island. I understand they have some shading placed throughout, but I saw A LOT of large areas full of concrete.
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When solar panels are layed flat there isn't some loss. It can be up to half.
If they are being used in that way then they are nothing more than an expensive decoration.
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When solar panels are layed flat there isn't some loss. It can be up to half.
If they are being used in that way then they are nothing more than an expensive decoration.
Lol good point. They would be practically useless in the winter months, when the sun is lower.

I can see it now... "Sorry residents, it's winter time. You're going to have to do without electricity for a few months"

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