Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-07-2017, 10:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 5,515
Thanks: 0
Thanked 522 Times in 467 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover View Post
Drum brakes go out of adjustment so quickly as to make it a monthly chore on a 12k annual
Mile vehicle.
That's why nowadays most drum brakes are self-adjustable.


Quote:
And they're worthless in the wet.

So, unbalanced braking both front to rear plus side to side and worthless in rain.
Not so worthless at all and, nowadays that ABS became more common, braking doesn't get so unbalanced.


Quote:
THEN that they aren't capable of high speed stops.
Every system has its compromises. Discs may occasionaly bend due to torque, while drums don't have this problem. But anyway, since most of the vehicles still available with drum brakes in my country are either small motorcycles or commercial vehicles fitted with some sort of braking retarder which reduces the load imposed to the brakes, drums are still cost-effective.


Quote:
We ran disc equipped trailers and tractors in the oilfield. "Rural" doesn't describe where we had to go.
It doesn't really matter if it's a farm, an oilfield, a military operation in the Amazon or the Pantanal, a mining site or a construction, drum brakes are still prefered by many operators in my country.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-08-2017, 06:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
wdb
lurker's apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: the Perimeter
Posts: 677

PlainJane - '12 Toyota Tacoma Base 4WD Access Cab
90 day: 20.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 233
Thanked 137 Times in 104 Posts
Drum brakes can be preferable in low speed situations. Drums will warp just like rotors under stress. Drum brakes are incapable of matching the braking force possible with discs. I don't quite understand the maintenance angle; when I worked on cars drum brakes took 5 times as long to service. There are 20 or so moving parts in a drum brake compared with as few as 2 in a disc brake.

Taurus was aerodynamic at the start but got pretty bulky in later iterations.

I think sedans in general are losing out because of the sheer interior volume people expect these days. Makes them great buys on the used market; I picked up a CPO Lexus for a song two years ago.

I think I miss the station wagon more than I'll miss sedans; great driving dynamics, better aero than SUV bricks, lots of space.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 11:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 5,515
Thanks: 0
Thanked 522 Times in 467 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdb View Post
I think I miss the station wagon more than I'll miss sedans; great driving dynamics, better aero than SUV bricks, lots of space.
Sedans have been falling out of favor in a worldwide basis, too bad there are not so many choices for those who don't want a sedan but would rather not follow the SUV bandwagon.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2017, 12:20 PM   #24 (permalink)
Ecomuggler
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 5,149

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 40.43 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 35.09 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,101
Thanked 865 Times in 644 Posts
Someone told me drum brakes required far more work and adjustment than disc brakes, but also that drum brakes retained far more dust.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2017, 12:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5,947
Thanks: 160
Thanked 1,372 Times in 1,020 Posts
Drum brakes DO contain more mechanical components and brake dust DOES collect within the drum assembly.

Disc brakes DO have fewer mechanical components and their brake dust is spread outward onto the wheel assembly and into the atmosphere to later settle onto the roadways...and nearby homes.
__________________
2014 Toyota Prius 1.8L eCVT
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A

2011 Chevrolet LTZ Cruze 1.4LT 6A
1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2017, 12:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 8,601
Thanks: 1,863
Thanked 2,836 Times in 2,213 Posts
Unless you drill radial holes in them, drum brakes don't work well underwater.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 04:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
wdb
lurker's apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: the Perimeter
Posts: 677

PlainJane - '12 Toyota Tacoma Base 4WD Access Cab
90 day: 20.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 233
Thanked 137 Times in 104 Posts
Brake dust, really? If you want to worry about dust generated by transportation systems, brake dust is pretty low on the list.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com