Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-01-2017, 02:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 2,628

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 219
Thanked 413 Times in 312 Posts
Chinese moped trike with roof

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	5C52D21A-5907-4A27-B307-BCF3CA6EE30C.jpeg
Views:	20
Size:	47.3 KB
ID:	22904  
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-02-2017, 01:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 8,786
Thanks: 1,907
Thanked 2,876 Times in 2,245 Posts
Quote:
The last few years, there's been much interest in reducing road congestion, ie by using "cars" that have a width of 1m or less (thus about 1/2 of a regular car).
Your first example is Elio?!?

Citation needed. I would say the interest is in platooning, to fill the lane rather than reduce it's width. There is an opportunity to improve parking, but traffic lane width is fixed.

What would a 1-meter wide vehicle look like? It would be a tandem two-seater with two wheels, or a carver. Relax the 1-meter width restriction and make it a reverse trike and you have a stable platform for high-speed performance.



These are being built today, and the company has global intentions. They claim that due to the aerodynamic shape of the windscreen and top, you can ride in the rain without side panels. Three fit in a standard parking space.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 06:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
sendler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY USA
Posts: 1,953

Honda CBR250R FI Single - '11 Honda CBR250R
90 day: 103.51 mpg (US)

Ninja 250R SE Green - '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R SE
90 day: 65.9 mpg (US)

2001 Honda Insight stick - '01 Honda Insight manual
90 day: 60.68 mpg (US)

2009 Honda Fit auto - '09 Honda Fit Auto
90 day: 42.77 mpg (US)

Kawi Ninja650 - '07 Kawasaki Ninja650
90 day: 54.85 mpg (US)

PCX153 - '13 Honda PCX150
90 day: 103.38 mpg (US)

2015 Yamaha R3 - '15 Yamaha R3
90 day: 81.28 mpg (US)
Thanks: 258
Thanked 463 Times in 349 Posts
Electric drive Two wheeled vehicles will offer the highest personal traffic and parking density.
.
.
.
.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 07:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
sendler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY USA
Posts: 1,953

Honda CBR250R FI Single - '11 Honda CBR250R
90 day: 103.51 mpg (US)

Ninja 250R SE Green - '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R SE
90 day: 65.9 mpg (US)

2001 Honda Insight stick - '01 Honda Insight manual
90 day: 60.68 mpg (US)

2009 Honda Fit auto - '09 Honda Fit Auto
90 day: 42.77 mpg (US)

Kawi Ninja650 - '07 Kawasaki Ninja650
90 day: 54.85 mpg (US)

PCX153 - '13 Honda PCX150
90 day: 103.38 mpg (US)

2015 Yamaha R3 - '15 Yamaha R3
90 day: 81.28 mpg (US)
Thanks: 258
Thanked 463 Times in 349 Posts
Toyota i-road
.
https://youtu.be/K-Tj4r49xYc
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 08:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 39
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmay635703 View Post
Chinese moped trike with roof
That's a two-wheeler, and it doesn't have 2-seats either. 3-wheelers are more stable and allow to carry more people, and cargo. Two-wheelers (like bikes) are fine for plain home-work trips, and just 1 person then needs to be carried. However, a bike is something everyone has and adding just a fairing will be very cheap. Buying a completely new vehicle for this seems cost-ineffective, unless it too is relatively cheap and essential (distance between home-work being too great). The idea is thus that this vehicle would be combined with a larger regular vehicle (tuktuk) ie for shopping, transporting passengers, ...

A cheap motorcycle with fairings (or integrated full cabin as shown on the image) would do for this. Which brands do you think are best ? There's a lot of publicity being made for the Daymak Beast standard (2700$) and it should be fittable with a fairing but I'm not sure whether this is the most appropriate. I'm also wondering whether motorized kick scooters could be fitted with a fairing (because at the back there's no metal rod -from a seat- on which a fairing can be attached) If possible, they would be the cheapest option though (ie the glion costs just 600$ and has a range of 15 miles, the ecoreco has a range of 40 miles (!) and attains 20 mph (sold for 800$). The momas and mijia are somewhere in the middle (20 mph/20 mile range, 900$ and 15 mph/18 mile range 375$ respectively. The minizum and zum costs 1250$, reaches 19-21 mph, and has a range of 20 miles. For links, see

@freebeard
That vehicle is called the "Arcimoto SRK". Too costly (11900$)
Also, doesn't have sufficient cargo space (tuktuks do have that and are way cheaper). Cargo space is important as cars are also used to carry food/drinks from supermarkets to the home.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sendler View Post
Toyota i-road
Yes, could be a suitable vehicle, but just a concept car (not commercially available). Not sure on price, cargo space, ...
I found another concept vehicle that is also notable: the Schaeffler bio-hybrid. Same thing here though: no info available, and obviously not yet sold commercially. Another concept is the Grant Sinclair Iris e-trike.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sendler View Post
Electric drive Two wheeled vehicles will offer the highest personal traffic and parking density
True, but they don't offer the benefits of 3-wheelers (see above). Also, in that image you showed, all people in there are breaking the law.

There are a few e-tuktuk's being sold here in Europe (see here and here) so those seem most appropriate. The Terra Motors tuktuk seems (design-wise) even better (less than 1m wide, whereas most tuktuks are 1,1-1,3m wide), but I'm not sure what the price is. Also, I prefer one that has a gasoline engine -on biofuel- (not electric).

Last edited by smallscaleH2; 11-04-2017 at 09:33 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 01:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Stubby79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 722

Topoff (RIP) - '92 Geo Metro LSi
90 day: 48.54 mpg (US)

'91 Miata - '91 Mazda Miata
90 day: 27.11 mpg (US)

'86 Fiero GT - '86 Pontiac Fiero GT

Purple Penny Pincher - '95 Pontiac Firefly Base
90 day: 43.68 mpg (US)

Jett-Black - '01 Volkswagen Jetta
90 day: 39.32 mpg (US)

Firefly EV - '98 Pontiac Firefly EV
90 day: 107.65 mpg (US)
Thanks: 35
Thanked 217 Times in 158 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by sendler View Post
Looks to have solved the cornering stability issue!

Can I have one?
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 02:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 8,786
Thanks: 1,907
Thanked 2,876 Times in 2,245 Posts
Quote:
That vehicle is called the "Arcimoto SRK".
I know, I'm holding a reservation number.

Quote:
Too costly (11900$)
I know that too, but I wouldn't want to take a tuk-tuk onto the freeway.

Quote:
Also, doesn't have sufficient cargo space (tuktuks do have that and are way cheaper).
One body variant is called the Deliverator, for pizzeria and pharmacies.

Sendler — The picture reminds me of Saigon, now known as Ho Chi Minh City.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2017, 05:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 41
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by smallscaleH2 View Post
That's a two-wheeler, and it doesn't have 2-seats either. 3-wheelers are more stable and allow to carry more people, and cargo.
Actually it is a three wheeler with a rather narrow track. Consequently it leans into corners.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2017, 02:05 AM   #19 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 5,605
Thanks: 0
Thanked 533 Times in 478 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
I wouldn't want to take a tuk-tuk onto the freeway
If I could get a tuktuk and easily make it reach speeds suitable to road traffic, I would most likely not ever want a more conventional econobox anymore. Easier parking and maneuvering in tight spaces, lower operating costs, and enough space compared to some subcompacts not available there in the U.S. sound quite hard to ignore.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2017, 01:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 8,786
Thanks: 1,907
Thanked 2,876 Times in 2,245 Posts
I want to take an Arcimoto SRK to Bonneville and run it with a P-38 belly tank for a body.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Tags
3-wheeler, elio motors, narrow car

Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com