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Old 03-20-2015, 01:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 03-22-2015, 01:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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which are better 165/65r15 or 165/70r14 ?

I saw that now sells 165 / 65R15 and 175 / 60R15 .

years ago there were sold .

years ago were selling 175 / 65R15 . but do not serve me .
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R15 means you need 15 inch rims; as the other tires you mentioned are all R14 I assume you have 14 inch rims.
If you are willing to get 15"rims too then yes, you can do that.
Mind the rim width; they need to be narrow enough to fit 165 width tires.
Buy steels and cover them with a plate or pizza pan
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have rims 14 and 15 "

I'm trying to sell the 15 " . but can not find buyer.
I do not like wheels 15 " . dampen worst potholes than 14" . the 15 " have less profile in the tire .

Tires 15 " are mini bmw 2002. Imola aka model . Of 5,5jx14 and weighs 5.45kg . They are the lightest 15" that can be found easily.

I have weighed a tire 15 " tire to average use . measure 175 / 65R15 . and weighs 12kg .

Despite the rim 14 "and were 6.8kg . And 14kg tire to average use .

The rims are aluminum. are not steel .

What advantage does a steel wheel ? They are easy to get.

I have to look like pizza plates are mounted.
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Steel rims are easier to mount covers on other than that, lighter is better.
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my car with rims 14". tires 175/65r14.



my car with rims 15". tires 195/55r15.




Rims. 14" left. 15" right.

Rim 14". new tire 175/65r14
Rim 15". tire to average use 175/65r15




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Steel rims are easier to mount covers on other than that, lighter is better.
I'm looking covers

Why is easy ma put the covers on steel rims?
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I'm looking covers

Why is easy ma put the covers on steel rims?
Depends on rim design, but steel rims usually have a groove for the notch on lips of hub caps to fall into.
So you can use regular hub caps as a base for an aerodynamic cover, then you can mount and dismount them easily.

Many alloys have straight spokes; if you put a plate on them with tie wraps they may shift out of place easily. Hose clamps might work.
Your 15" alloys look fine for mounting a plate on, especially if the side falls within the outer rim edge.
My alloys bulge outward a bit and do not have an edge like that.

Those 15" wheels look al lot taller than the 14"s...
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A couple of thoughts:

First, tire size doesn't affect Rolling resistance as much as the tire itself. Put a different way, the range of RR values of tires of the same size is HUGE!!! (on the order of 60%), while a change in tires size is single digit percents. It would be better to expend effort in finding the right make and model of tire, and stay with the same size.

Second, LRR is a relative term, not an absolute one. It means "Less rolling resistance than tires with similar wear and traction characteristics." So you will find tires labeled as LRR that have higher RR values than tires not so labeled.

And lastly, RR is in a 3 way relationship with traction and wear. Changes can be made to the tread compound to improve RR while not affecting wear and traction, but those are minor by comparison. In other words, if you want tires with excellent RR, you'll have to sacrifice wear and/or traction. Careful selection of tires is important to get the right compromise.
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Depends on rim design, but steel rims usually have a groove for the notch on lips of hub caps to fall into.
So you can use regular hub caps as a base for an aerodynamic cover, then you can mount and dismount them easily.

Many alloys have straight spokes; if you put a plate on them with tie wraps they may shift out of place easily. Hose clamps might work.
Your 15" alloys look fine for mounting a plate on, especially if the side falls within the outer rim edge.
My alloys bulge outward a bit and do not have an edge like that.

Those 15" wheels look al lot taller than the 14"s...
I previously had these tires with these covers.




one day after going down a mountain. stopped at a car park. 10 minutes had been melted the plastic cover.

an aluminum rim is best for a good cooling.

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