Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-28-2010, 01:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
puddleglum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
Posts: 158

Rondo - '07 Rondo EX
90 day: 25.5 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 30 Times in 16 Posts
I was'nt thinking much about the crabsteering idea when I posted this link, but I think it could be a safety risk.


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 03:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...head-on, the wind speed is a direct "drag"

...but, oblique wind direction will be basically a cosine function (I think), with a MAJOR increase in tire rolling resistance (Trr) as YOU keep compensating for the body's "windvane" effects by slightly cranking in steering offset.
__________________
2011 Chevrolet Cruze LTZ 1.4LT 6A
2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/SFI 4A
2004 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L/MFI 4A
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0L/Zetec 4A

1971 Dodge Charger 318 3A
1970˝ Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 340/6BBL 4M
1968 Dodge Charger 383 3A
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 383 4M
1965 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 273 4M
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 04:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,724

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 43.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 385
Thanked 459 Times in 315 Posts
puddleglum -

Quote:
Originally Posted by puddleglum View Post
Crosswinds are almost always mor

I came across this link yesterday that illustrates crosswinds effect on mileage quite well. I'm guessing the hit would be even greater on a larger car with a worse Cd.
Such a cool picture. I tried to make a meaningful plot out of it :



The "Angle" is the ambient wind direction, in degrees.

The 90 degrees is (obviously) the point where the crosswind is orthogonal to the direction of travel. It looks like two different equations on each side of 90 degrees to me.

I wonder what sailboaters would have to say about this?

CarloSW2


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Testing: WAI's effect on engine warm up Daox EcoModding Central 24 01-13-2011 09:41 PM
SAE Paper 800087 – The Effect of Inflation Pressure on Bias, Bias-Belted, and Radial CapriRacer Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 18 07-06-2008 06:36 PM
Tips: corridor effect question joycebgood Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 13 05-29-2008 03:15 PM
Smooth Road Effect newtonsfirstlaw General Efficiency Discussion 7 01-16-2008 05:37 PM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com