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Old 11-17-2015, 09:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The Mirage looks like it'll be getting the Attrage face:



That lower grille looks really pretty, though.

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No big ones on the horizon, for the ultra-cheap car market. Hopefully they'll greenlight a left-hand drive Datson Go... there's a Mirage-sized car that's over a hundred pounds lighter... but if we're to believe Max Mosley, flimsier than a cardboard box...

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Yeah, I've read about the Datsun Go - Indian review. Based on the Micra platform, I believe. (India's #1 car export is the Micra.)

I wonder if the U.S. will ever get a super cheap car like the $10k Micra we get north of the 49th.
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The Mirage looks like it'll be getting the Attrage face
Also, note the new "power bulge" on the hood, which is truly ironic... unless of course they actually do offer a 2.0L variant!
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Yeah, I've read about the Datsun Go - Indian review. Based on the Micra platform, I believe. (India's #1 car export is the Micra.)

I wonder if the U.S. will ever get a super cheap car like the $10k Micra we get north of the 49th.
I think it's very possible. The big problem will be the volume. Unless it sells in big numbers, the ROI after the cost of Federalization, distribution and marketing will probably be too marginal to please any investors.

Simply: Would American buyers put up with a Mirage with steelies, no stereo, no air and wind-up windows? Probably not.

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Also, yeah, that power bulge is bugging me something fierce. Wonder if that means the rumored turbo variant is on its way?
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Simply: Would American buyers put up with a Mirage with steelies, no stereo, no air and wind-up windows? Probably not.
Some might. Aftermarket wheels and stereo, and live where A/C is unnecessary. And I prefer wind-up windows myself.
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As for something probable, I would like to see an affordable vehicle that goes deeper into low-drag territory (0.20-0.23).
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Tesla Model 3 To Aim For 0.20 Drag Coefficient: Report

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Tesla is aiming for a drag coefficient below 0.20 for the Model 3, according to Electrek, which cites an anonymous source who is not a Tesla employee, but a friend of one.

That figure is significantly lower than the 0.24 of the Model S, and could make the Model 3 among the most aerodynamic vehicles in mass production.
Source: Tesla Model 3 To Aim For 0.20 Drag Coefficient: Report

Now I'm *really* looking forward to the March debut.
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March, of which year?

I'd be super impressed if they hit 0.22 CoD.
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Timely news item... you (we) may get your wish!

Tesla Model 3 To Aim For 0.20 Drag Coefficient: Report


Source: Tesla Model 3 To Aim For 0.20 Drag Coefficient: Report

Now I'm *really* looking forward to the March debut.
Yes!

Leave it to Elon Musk to actually listen to all the high-aerodynamic-efficiency data of the past 100 years! He is revolutionary, for sure.

They hint at going below 0.20 Cd. Makes me wonder what the final styling will look like?
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Leave it to Elon Musk to actually listen to all the high-aerodynamic-efficiency data of the past 100 years! He is revolutionary, for sure.
Yeah, but then why can't he listen to ergonomic data, and get rid of that horrible touch screen interface for everything? It seems (as with Buckminster Fuller, Freeman Dyson, and many others) that genius in one area must be counterbalanced by blind stupidity in others.
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