When will the 1G Insight finally be bested?

[Ryland]

It's already been done! the Suzuki Twin, 100mpg hybrid "The car Americans don't want" Suzuki's Twin Hybrid achieves 100 mpg and I believe the cost is around $9,000-10,000

[NeilBlanchard]

Hi,

I certainly hope that Aptera will be able to sell more 2e/2h vehicles than that by 2015.

The Toyota 1/X could do it.

A Toyota/Scion FT-EV (EV version of the iQ) would do it.

The Nissan Leaf would do it.

The Mitsubishi iMiEV would do it.

A plug in Prius would do it.

[tasdrouille]

Well, if we go by the EPA standard, not hypermilers standard, the 2010 Prius gets 50 combined while the cvt Insight got 47. The manual Insight got 53. So it should not take much to surpass the Insight with the next generation hybrids.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

VW likely won't even put a diesel in the Polo they're considering bringing to North America - what does that say about their seriousness regarding efficiency?

Maybe it says that they're interested in shipping cars that sell, and how many Americans would want to buy a diesel, given all the examples on the roads that noise & stink are inseparable from diesel? And yes, I know the arguments about Europeans being able to build clean, quiet diesels, but that doesn't cut much ice when I pull up next to a contrary example of a brand-new American diesel pickup idling at a light.

[RobertSmalls]

@Suzuki Twin: that is a niftly little keicar. I presume that 100mpg figure is on the Japanese 10-15 mode, which results in much higher numbers than the EPA's faster test. It has a smaller frontal area, but a much higher drag coefficient, than the Insight. Someone should ecomod one.

@Toyota 1/X: Wow! It's a mini-Prius, made of extremely expensive materials! I want one. Yes, that would beat the 1g Insight if it came out without getting bloated on its way through the focus groups. The concept is awesome, but what if the production version ended up with a price tag a few grand less than the Insight-II? Hint: no carbon fiber, no Lithium-ion.

[cfg83]

RobertSmalls -

Originally Posted by RobertSmalls

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@Toyota 1/X: Wow! It's a mini-Prius, made of extremely expensive materials! I want one. Yes, that would beat the 1g Insight if it came out without getting bloated on its way through the focus groups. The concept is awesome, but what if the production version ended up with a price tag a few grand less than the Insight-II? Hint: no carbon fiber, no Lithium-ion.

I love looking in the Japanese car mags. Here is something that may just be a fig-newton of the artist's imagination, but who knows? :



I think it's a proposal for a Honda CR-Z fighter. Is it a Toyota CRX/Insight/Prius ?!?!?!?!?

CarloSW2