Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-19-2008, 11:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,515

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,062
Thanked 6,959 Times in 3,603 Posts
Here's a quiz: In your Honda Insight you drive one leg of a trip, uphill and into a headwind, and get 50 mpg. On the way back you get 100 mpg. What's your round trip MPG?

__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 06-19-2008, 11:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
wagonman76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Northwest Lower Michigan
Posts: 1,006

Red Car - '89 Chevrolet Celebrity CL 4 door
Team Chevy
90 day: 36.47 mpg (US)

Winter Wagon - '89 Pontiac 6000 LE Wagon
90 day: 28.26 mpg (US)
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
I agree, thats something I was thinking about on the way home today. There are basically 2 good ways I can go to work. I usually go the way that is 25 miles and 50% highway, and gets me about 29 mpg. There is another way that is more like 75% highway and would get me more like 30 mpg, however it is 30 miles so the added distance outweighs the mpg gain. The in-laws live that way so I only go that way when Im stopping by there.

Also there are other things that sometimes outweigh fuel efficiency. I typically run my tires at like 30 psi. I could pump them up and pick up another mpg, but that makes the car get beat up a lot harder by these horrible Michigan roads, and ends up costing me more in repairs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
In addition, there is another twist in calculating FE. For example, my present average is about 41-42 mpg. I can easily get 46 mpg if I take another route to and from work. However, that particular route is long enough to cost me an extra 12 more cents a day in gas than the route with lower mpg, which is shorter. Therefore the FE of the engine and the FE of the route are in conflict.

My ego makes me want to take the higher mpg route so that I can brag about my efficiency. Logic and my conscience demand I take the more efficient route, which has lower mpg.
__________________

Winter daily driver, parked most days right now


Summer daily driver

Last edited by wagonman76; 06-19-2008 at 11:20 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2008, 11:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
EV OR DIESEL
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South Louisiana
Posts: 1,758

FarFarfrumpumpen - '03 Volkswagen Jetta Wagon GLS Premium

Quorra - '12 Tesla Model S P85
Thanks: 57
Thanked 113 Times in 86 Posts
Send a message via AIM to dremd
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Here's a quiz: In your Honda Insight you drive one leg of a trip, uphill and into a headwind, and get 50 mpg. On the way back you get 100 mpg. What's your round trip MPG?
66.67MPG ? Or is my dyslexia showing?
__________________
2016 Tesla Model X
2022 Sprinter
Gone 2012 Tesla Model S P85
Gone 2013 Nissan LEAF SV
2012 Nissan LEAF SV
6 speed ALH TDI Swapped in to a 2003 Jetta Wagon
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2008, 11:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
MP$
 
diesel_john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 595
Thanks: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Send a message via MSN to diesel_john
Talking

BTU's per mile

Last edited by diesel_john; 06-19-2008 at 11:54 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 12:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
I found this the other day in a magazine ad :

Hmmmm....
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Cd For This Useful Post:
Xist (10-04-2015)
Old 06-20-2008, 01:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
Future EV Owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 674

Wannabe - '05 Honda Civic LX
90 day: 40.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by .Cd View Post
I found this the other day in a magazine ad :
Wow, a used car at double the original price. Good luck with that!
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 01:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
Future EV Owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 674

Wannabe - '05 Honda Civic LX
90 day: 40.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Here's a quiz: In your Honda Insight you drive one leg of a trip, uphill and into a headwind, and get 50 mpg. On the way back you get 100 mpg. What's your round trip MPG?

75 mpg. The wind and the hill info are not necessary for the computation.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 07:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
The Detailer!
 
Bigs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Gatineau, QC
Posts: 29

His - '08 Chevrolet Aveo LS
90 day: 35.85 mpg (US)

Hers - '09 Hyundai Accent Sport
90 day: 36.64 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
Wow, a used car at double the original price. Good luck with that!
Yep! LMAO!


Back on topic, I don't mind the MPG's... This is what the older folks like my parents still use. So I'm used to both ways!
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 08:08 AM   #19 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
tasdrouille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mirabel, QC
Posts: 1,672

The Guzzler - '08 Hyundai Elantra GL
90 day: 33.12 mpg (US)

Got Soul? - '11 Kia Soul 2U
Thanks: 35
Thanked 86 Times in 57 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
75 mpg. The wind and the hill info are not necessary for the computation.
You just proved the article is right. Suppose 50 miles. At 50 mpg you use 1 gal and at 100 mpg you use 0.5 gal. Total fuel for the 100 miles trip is 1.5 gal which turns out to be 66.6667 mpg.

I'm a Canadian, but an ambiguous one I guess. I measure long distances in km, but anything below 100 m will be in feet. I measure large volumes in liters, but anything below 1.15 liter will be in ounces. I'm consequent with weight though, tons and pounds all the time, but I guess I should be using the metric system...

Anyway, I really don't like L/100km. I don't know why, maybe because it does not vary much. A change from 7.5 to 6.5 L/100km doesn't sound like much to me. 31 mpg to 36 mpg speaks a lot more IMHO.
__________________



www.HyperKilometreur.com - Quand chaque goutte compte...
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 09:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
Posts: 73
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well, I could see the benefit of L/100km for the 2 days my scanguage worked. Let's say you get 35 mpg. At idle, that drops to zero. In L/100km your normal 6.7 would suddenly jump to 9999... I find the latter far more alarming.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com