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Old 02-27-2008, 02:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Zenn Electric car



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Old 02-27-2008, 02:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very cool. I saw one in Barcelona back in the summer of 2006. I didn't even realize it was electric at the time.

I think its made in Canada.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, there's a retailer right down the road from me.... A road, with a speed limit of 45mph... Which is not legal to drive an NEV on...

Base price of $13,625 though :/
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Zenn got a "cease operations" order- last week I think. Canada won't allow them for some reason.

They were being sold here; I test drove one and it is terrific! But when they say 25 mph- they mean it. Pretty unnerving to have it floored and traffic is passing at 35 + mph.

Power sunroof and stereo were fun options. It is such a shame that these might disappear.

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Its aerodynamics don't look all that great, with a level roof line, open wheel wells, open wheel spokes, various stying bumps and grooves, and something hanging down underneath it (no underbody paneling?). I wonder what kind of speed and range improvement it would get with a decent aero treatment.
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its aerodynamics don't look all that great, with a level roof line, open wheel wells, open wheel spokes, various stying bumps and grooves, and something hanging down underneath it (no underbody paneling?). I wonder what kind of speed and range improvement it would get with a decent aero treatment.
At 25mph, not that much. Now if the car was able to go 40mph or faster then aero would play a much bigger factor.
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Zenn got a "cease operations" order- last week I think. Canada won't allow them for some reason.

They were being sold here; I test drove one and it is terrific! But when they say 25 mph- they mean it. Pretty unnerving to have it floored and traffic is passing at 35 + mph.

Power sunroof and stereo were fun options. It is such a shame that these might disappear.

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At 25mph, not that much. Now if the car was able to go 40mph or faster then aero would play a much bigger factor.
Sure, benefits will be more if it goes 40... But there's plenty benefit at 25. Don't believe me? Hop on a bike and tell me how much force you feel riding your bike at 25mph And a bike has but a fraction of the frontal area

All or nothing will result in the latter
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They could probably sell a lot more of these things if it went 40mph.
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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True, there is something to gained in aero even at 25mph. However weight and rolling resistance have more of a drag then aero at speeds below 40mph. Above 40mph aero is the greatest resistance the car has to work against.


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