Science doesn't end with the beginning of discussion, unless...
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-08-04
There's a difference between a valid healthy discussion and the battle of attrition we sometimes seem to have.
There's no open discussion if money, love, jobs, religion or memories of the old days are involved. Things one will never give up.
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For education go to people unlike yourself.
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