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Old 01-23-2023, 08:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Hey, Phase
How long do you plan your tail to be ?
What will you do about lights ?
What will it be made out of ?

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Old 01-23-2023, 09:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey, Phase
How long do you plan your tail to be ?
What will you do about lights ?
What will it be made out of ?
Trying not to go over 2 feet extension. That’ll put me around the same ball park as a Tesla model s or x in length.

Plenty of LED strip lights that exist now

Material I’d probably use dibond. Sure it costs more than coroplast, but I really like the premium feel of it. Works amazing for my wheel skirts. I’d want my boat tail to look “ factory” and not as cheesy as some other boat tails done on this forum. No offense to them. They help pave the way and save money. I’m recently single, and still have to pick up dates of mostly girls in their 20s. I get a lot of compliments on how my Ioniq looks. I’m not gonna ruin that with some finalized duct tape card board mid matched painted boat tail
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I’m recently single, and still have to pick up dates of mostly girls in their 20s. I get a lot of compliments on how my Ioniq looks. I’m not gonna ruin that with some finalized duct tape card board mid matched painted boat tail
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Old 01-24-2023, 08:57 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I mean I still want the boat tail to look good when I make it. For myself too
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Like all things, there are diminishing returns. The majority of the aero improvement comes at the initial taper, and the least valuable part is at the very tail. Squaring it off somewhere will still yield the majority of the benefit.
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Like all things, there are diminishing returns. The majority of the aero improvement comes at the initial taper, and the least valuable part is at the very tail. Squaring it off somewhere will still yield the majority of the benefit.
Exactly! Like I told others, I’m aiming for a 2 foot boat tail with a squared mini box cavity at the end. Not some 4-6 foot long sperm tail lol
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Mock-up boat tail will probably be using coroplast. Got a ton of it right now versus cardboard.
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Exactly! Like I told others, I’m aiming for a 2 foot boat tail with a squared mini box cavity at the end. Not some 4-6 foot long sperm tail lol
Ouch. I'd expect that from a Camaro forum, but it stings even more coming from Ecomodder.
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I support the decision. Each case is individual. My Metro barely fits it's parking place as it is. Mair, et al, supported truncations.

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Mock-up boat tail will probably be using coroplast.
When you move on, consider getting a 2+ foot strip of heavy-gauge sheet aluminum and find someone to Engish wheel it into a contour that you can hold up to the car and crimp edges to finalize the fit. Then hammer and dolly the crimps flat again and trim it all down.

Else get a 1948 Buick hood and cut the contour you're looking for out of it. Remember Jimmy Jones?

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“Jimmy would make a cardboard template that matched the contour of the fender when he made his skirts,” and according to Gene, this was Jimmy’s genius; “After WWII everyone in the US wanted new cars. As soon as they could get a new car, they got rid of their old, and the wrecking yards were jammed full of cars. Jimmy could go to 15 different car models and find the one that had just the right shape. That was his magic! He was able to find a body panel, like an old roof, look at it and see all the contours he needed to make it work. He would slide his pattern around on that roof until he found just the right place. He could then pull that piece of metal out of there, and all he had to do was to establish an outer edge around that fit the car, and all the contour, all the bubble, and all the rainbow were already built in. He had that magic eye!” Jimmy had a bed of coals in his backyard that he would slide the skirts over before he hammered them into perfect shape
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Jimmy Jones was a man of color. An uneducated black man. No-one in the automotive industry was black in the 1940s and the 1950s, so for someone like Jimmy to have as much influence over the automotive aftermarket styling market and the early custom car scene as he had, makes the Jimmy Jones story extremely unique. Maybe more unique than the fact that his skirts were so beautiful and popular. Jimmy had a huge impact on the Mid-Western custom car scene in the 1950s, and he has helped form and define the cars of that era as we currently know them.

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