Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-14-2020, 05:37 PM   #111 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,653
Thanks: 7,764
Thanked 8,575 Times in 7,061 Posts
So, the long dimension is N-S?

South-facing slope for solar, Low House style

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingl...e_architecture

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
"We're deeply sorry." -- Pfizer
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-14-2020, 05:43 PM   #112 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,181

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 270
Thanked 3,525 Times in 2,799 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist View Post
He welded everything together:
Welded in bracing:

Painted:

2x4 flooring:

Painted:

He mounted the spare tire:

OSB flooring:

2x3 walls:

Braces on every corner:

7/32” plywood:

Tyvek:

Siding

https://www.jamestangphotography.com...g-photography/
This is why we have engineers and laws.
Looks like no attempt at weld prep was made and welds look like bird poop and will hold as if they were bird poop.
Anyone who says they can weld through paint is a dangerous idiot.
That harbor freight trailer was only made to hold around 1,100lb, that house has to weigh at least a ton.
At the very last the tires will shred at highway speed.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 05:45 PM   #113 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,150

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,784
Thanked 1,922 Times in 1,246 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist View Post
This one has a roof overhang and interior space!

However, the base confuses me. He built straight up, straight out, and then angled out.
First, that's not a roof overhang, it's a Kammback.
The structure at the bottom is probably because the trailer has very low metal sides.

I love the projects, but how much weight is an HF trailer rated for? Yes, weld it all up, but the axle? I also wouldn't trust much tongue weight to one of those clamp-on nose wheels.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 05:48 PM   #114 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,653
Thanks: 7,764
Thanked 8,575 Times in 7,061 Posts
OTOH, those 2x4 stud walls are overengineered for the gross dimensions. A stressed skin monocoque with round-cornered rectangular opening would be some fraction of the weight.

You are correct about the welding. Don't take it on the Interstate!
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
"We're deeply sorry." -- Pfizer
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 05:54 PM   #115 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,181

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 270
Thanked 3,525 Times in 2,799 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Charlie View Post
First, that's not a roof overhang, it's a Kammback.
The structure at the bottom is probably because the trailer has very low metal sides.

I love the projects, but how much weight is an HF trailer rated for? Yes, weld it all up, but the axle? I also wouldn't trust much tongue weight to one of those clamp-on nose wheels.
I got the heaviestduty one they had and was able to destroy it in less than 2 years and I never put anything as heavy as a house on it. All I had to do to fix it was put bigger stronger tires on it, stronger axle, stronger springs, convert it to fully welded construction. Basically had to completely rebuild it to make it to where it could carry 2,500lb.
Then any time I would load it any where near a ton it was scarry so I added a brake axle a few years ago.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 05:56 PM   #116 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,150

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,784
Thanked 1,922 Times in 1,246 Posts
Overengineered, shmoverengineered! 2x4s are the backbone of any DIY project. They're not putting the trailer into production, they're knocking something together in their backyard.

That brings us back to Post #42: Dimensional lumber is universal application. Your budding trailer designer can drop $100 at Lowes Depot, go home, and then figure out what he's going to make as he goes along.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fat Charlie For This Useful Post:
Xist (03-14-2020)
Old 03-14-2020, 06:04 PM   #117 (permalink)
Rat Racer
 
Fat Charlie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Route 16
Posts: 4,150

Al the Third, year four - '13 Honda Fit Base
Team Honda
90 day: 42.9 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,784
Thanked 1,922 Times in 1,246 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
I got the heaviestduty one they had and was able to destroy it in less than 2 years and I never put anything as heavy as a house on it. All I had to do to fix it was put bigger stronger tires on it, stronger axle, stronger springs, convert it to fully welded construction. Basically had to completely rebuild it to make it to where it could carry 2,500lb.
Then any time I would load it any where near a ton it was scarry so I added a brake axle a few years ago.
Yeah, an HF trailer is kind of like the Krikkit One: "...a very useful thing to have around if you suddenly decided to build a spaceship yourself and didn’t know how to do it. It was not, however, anything that would ever fly anywhere itself."
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheepdog44 View Post
Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fat Charlie For This Useful Post:
Xist (03-14-2020)
Old 03-14-2020, 06:07 PM   #118 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,653
Thanks: 7,764
Thanked 8,575 Times in 7,061 Posts
Here's an oldy but a goody:


Only I'd use Superbeetle McPherson struts instead of a leaf-spring axle. So the wheels and tire match the tow vehicle.

The metal corner brackets on Xist's example are a good feature.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
"We're deeply sorry." -- Pfizer

Last edited by freebeard; 03-14-2020 at 06:12 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 06:26 PM   #119 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,186

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 29.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,225
Thanked 2,217 Times in 1,708 Posts
What would cost more, hiring a welder, or buying a welder?

I have zero experience, so...

I also have zero plans to move this, I just want a quiet place to work!

2x4s may be overkill, but what I am supposed to use in order to have siding, good insulation, and drywall?!

Let me guess, don't use siding or drywall, use coroplast!
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
Fat Charlie (03-14-2020)
Old 03-14-2020, 06:34 PM   #120 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,186

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 29.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,225
Thanked 2,217 Times in 1,708 Posts
I hope that this clarifies everything:

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	position.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	34.3 KB
ID:	27698  
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com