The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Nuclear needs some subsidies. Stop wasting it on solar.

[RedDevil]

Think we need both, so subsidize both.

[oil pan 4]

As long as coal is being burned to generate power subsidizing solar is a waste of money.
Once the base load is covered with nuclear and other power sources that work at night then add more solar power generation to cover peak load.
Or cover the peak load with solar then replace the base load with nuclear.
The United States could build 25 or so AP1000 reactors and put a nice dent in coals market share of electricity production.

[All Darc]

One question?
Who pay for the research and devolopment of solar technology, photovoltaics and thermal ?
Privade companies onlY ? Or also China government?

Maybe if more governments around the world could join into a huge financing/incentive to science research for solar energy, it could bring more results than subsides.

Just a idea...

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Think we need both, so subsidize both.

[All Darc]

I imagined all nuclear reactor power plants used steam.

Wasn't Fukushima's reactor one of the kind that use passive nuclear safety ?

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

As long as coal is being burned to generate power subsidizing solar is a waste of money.
Once the base load is covered with nuclear and other power sources that work at night then add more solar power generation to cover peak load.
Or cover the peak load with solar then replace the base load with nuclear.
The United States could build 25 or so AP1000 reactors and put a nice dent in coals market share of electricity production.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by All Darc

I imagined all nuclear reactor power plants used steam.

Wasn't Fukushima's reactor one of the kind that use passive nuclear safety ?

Reactor 1 was built in 1967. 2 and 3 were 1974 and 1976.
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China has several different GenIII+ passive safety designs just completed or under construction.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China
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Gen IV reactors such as the Thorcon and Moltex will not use water in the core and will be much safer.
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Thorcon Power | The Do-able Molten Salt Reactor
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Moltex Energy | Safer Cheaper Cleaner | Stable Salt Reactors | SSR
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https://terrapower.com/
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[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by All Darc

I imagined all nuclear reactor power plants used steam.

Wasn't Fukushima's reactor one of the kind that use passive nuclear safety ?

Statementslike this are how I now nothing is going to happen because the believers don't even think it's going to be very bad.

[All Darc]

I imagined Fukushima was safe for inside problems, but they get a ouside problem, the tsunami which destroyed a power station (ironicly isolated from energy production of the reactor itself) that feed the water pumps.

So I presume a true passive nuclear safety would have faced no problems in Fukushima scenerai the dy of the tsunami. AM I right?

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Statementslike this are how I now nothing is going to happen because the believers don't even think it's going to be very bad.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by All Darc

I imagined Fukushima was safe for inside problems, but they get a ouside problem, the tsunami which destroyed a power station (ironicly isolated from energy production of the reactor itself) that feed the water pumps.

So I presume a true passive nuclear safety would have faced no problems in Fukushima scenerai the dy of the tsunami. AM I right?

If you want to shut down the reactor you don't want to be trying to generate power at all.
A reactor like an AP1000 is going to be putting off something like 1 megawatts or 3.4 billion BTUs per hour worth of heat when you try to turn it off after the first time it's started. That's like the heat from burning around 150,000 pounds of propane per hour.

That heat can be moved away from the reactor very easy with even a fairly small amount of coolant flow.

The tsunami wiped out the backup systems.
Passive systems like the gen 3 plus drown the reactor with a lake of water held above the reactor.
Just imagine a decent size wood pallet fire trying to boil an entire lake of water, it cant.
The huge lake is there incase a jammed control rod failure, which i dont think has happened since gen 1 reactors.
If it had been a gen 4 molten salt reactor nothing would have happened. If the reactor tried to melt down the freeze plugs melt out of the reactor core emptying the contents into a graphite containment vault.
Be we don't have those yet because all the ignorant people who are afraid of anything nuclear some how keep blocking funding.

[oil pan 4]

That's how you know it's all a steaming crock of organic fertilizer.
Building some nuclear power plants and taking some coal ones off line will do far more to save the world then all this garbage they tell us we should be doing.