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Old 10-13-2019, 02:32 PM   #7451 (permalink)
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I didn't say Nietzsche proposed mass murder; I said Nazism drew inspiration from Nietzsche's ideas. One of those ideas is Übermensch; the creation of being superior to mankind as it currently is. Nietzsche defined good as powerful and capable, and bad as weak and incapable. It's a very short leap in thought to interpret that ideology to mean that individuals or groups that do not benefit the powerful/capable should be eliminated so that progress is not held back.
Funny thing that,it was exactly these types of people who destroyed NAZI Germany.

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Old 10-13-2019, 02:43 PM   #7452 (permalink)
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I would burn my rentals and collect insurance on them before losing money renting at fixed prices.
If the government is obsessed with running housing at a net financial loss they should do it.
If the government built S-hole housing projects and ran them at a net loss that would likely lower rent for an area. They can effect prices with out seizing total control.

But I feel like the government and the cult of climatology total control is all they ever wanted.
That would be the decision of last resort,but is always an option,as has been exercised in the past.
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I've already given a sufficient critique of the previous parts, but this quoted part has a ton of stuff wrong with it.

I'll start with the fact that fairness is not equalness. The words are not interchangeable. If someone works and that labor produces something valuable to society, and another person does not work and produces nothing of value to society, it would be unfair for them to receive equal compensation.

General welfare is in proportion to how efficiently labor and wealth is allocated. We don't just randomly select who will become a brain surgeon. The people most interested and naturally inclined to certain disciplines rise through the ranks of hierarchy to achieve their positions. Any system that disregards hierarchy is also lowering the welfare of all people. If we all lived in caves, we'd be equal, but none would be well.

Welfare and growth go hand in hand. The more material resources available, the better off people tend to be.

Perhaps people would be happier to work less hours, but that would require them to also be happy with less material wealth since everyone working less equates to there being less stuff available.

What motivation does one have to do anything at all if their job is guaranteed along with their wage? That's not how contracts work. They fall apart when 1 party agrees to give regardless of performance, and the other agrees to nothing.

Living wages are a stupid idea. It implies there are dying wages. Not only that, but certain jobs like working at fast food isn't meant to be a career; it's meant to be an introduction to the workforce by young people, people who already have support from their family.

This whole talk of climate change is a talk about the tragedy of the commons. Expanding social services is expanding the commons, which as we already know, is susceptible to tragedy because when something is owned by everyone, it's owned by nobody. Why would we expand the amount of things owned by nobody if we can help it? It's the #1 reason I come across when I see failure in work or practically every aspect of life; failure to own something means it gets neglected. Ownership means being responsible for the well-being of something.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:12 PM   #7454 (permalink)
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I think it's great the cult is exploiting children.
Now everyone knows they are clearly on the decline and have been for a while.
I'm part of 'everyone' and do not subscribe to that point of view.Your logic is faulty.
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Now that I read the reports I wonder where all the end of the world stuff comes from.
Were earlier IPCC reports more fire and brimstone?
You read a report (singular)?
Or,you read reports (plural)?
If you have the ability to connect dots,then there will be no reason not to appreciate the urgency of the matter.
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We have the data, the report is finalized in 2022.
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There's no universal causality established between socialism and the NAZI party.
??? It's in their name.

Linked rather than embedded because language: The Rageaholic: The Socialism of National Socialism - A Rant
https://youtu.be/9-SLqdhkvJo
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Yes it is in their name - a bloody disgrace they did that.

The NSDAP was as socialist as f.i. the GDR was democratic. Both put it in their name with no intent to adhere to its principles. If you want to take down socialism (or democracy) because they had it in their name, you are doing what they want, marching in their step.

Socialism be good or bad or whatever - but it has absolutely nothing in common with the Nazis.
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So you didn't watch the video? Anarchism comes in varieties from libertarian to authoritarian as well. Nationalism has good/bad aspects.
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I'd expect that from litesoff. Democracies look different from within a constitutional republic.
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Funny thing that,it was exactly these types of people who destroyed NAZI Germany.
The NAZI-beaters had lots of problems, tho. U.S. troops committed democide on Native Tribes for hundreds of years & couldn't get it right. Tho fifty percent of Tribes were exterminated, if Native Tribes equipped 10% to 20% of their warriors with Long Rifles obtained from gun-runners, they won battles. Cost to the U.S. gov't to execute Native Tribes was $1 million per head..... & that includes women, children & babies, when U.S. troops sometimes caught up with Tribes in the wilderness. By lies & breaking treaties, the U.S. was finally able to get Native Tribes on "Indian Reservations" by death drives. Hitler loved the concept of "Indian reservations", using a variation, that became known as "concentration camps". It was so nice to be able to kill those you hated, with few reports getting back to "civilized" city folk about your killings.
 
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.....I'd suggest replacing the Cartesian coordinate system with Synergetics.
Would Polar Coordinates be an acceptable substitute?

 
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