The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

Pot and kettle throwing shade.

Some states are trying to fix the problem or at least reduce harm...

washingtonexaminer.com/news/massachusetts-governor-lifts-ban-on-plastic-bags-to-help-stop-spread-of-coronavirus

The high-handed treatment of single-use bags didn't last long.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Pot and kettle throwing shade.

washingtonexaminer.com/news/massachusetts-governor-lifts-ban-on-plastic-bags-to-help-stop-spread-of-coronavirus

The high-handed treatment of single-use bags didn't last long.

Completely different issues - Climate change vs easily preventable ocean and land pollution

That said the ban will be back after this blows through. It took about 2 trips to the store for us to remember to bring bags.

[redpoint5]

I'm going to document sea turtles strangled by reusable bags now as propaganda.

Instead of banning disposable bags, just make the fine for littering them be something crazy like a night in jail and $500. Probably solve the homeless/meth problem at the same time.

As an aside, I now have to purchase garbage bags.

Maybe make coastal towns go reusable. Zero of my bags have ended up in nature, and could never end up in the ocean due to mountains being in the way.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I'm going to document sea turtles strangled by reusable bags now as propaganda.

Instead of banning disposable bags, just make the fine for littering them be something crazy like a night in jail and $500. Probably solve the homeless/meth problem at the same time.

As an aside, I now have to purchase garbage bags.

I used to use (some) plastic grocery bags for scooping the cat box. I say some because they are so thin most had holes in them. Most carried items home once and then went into the trash.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Maybe make coastal towns go reusable. Zero of my bags have ended up in nature, and could never end up in the ocean due to mountains being in the way.

Silver Creek flows into the Pudding River, which flows into the Molalla River, which flows into the Willamette River, which flows into the Columbia River, which flows into the Pacific Ocean.

Also I said ocean AND land pollution:

[redpoint5]

I do hate litter, which is why I tell people I catch that they are going to pick it back up and throw it in the trash.

Never understood littering on hiking trails. People are already doing something hard, how is putting a wrapper in the pocket that much more difficult?

[oil pan 4]

I haven't been on a hiking trail in probably about 23 years, no litter back then.
But now it's a thing?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I haven't been on a hiking trail in probably about 23 years, no litter back then.
But now it's a thing?

Portland area, everything gets trashed.

[redneck]

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[freebeard]

I used to use (some) plastic grocery bags for scooping the cat box. I say some because they are so thin most had holes in them. Most carried items home once and then went into the trash.

I certainly hope you filled them with something first.

I have a dwindling hoard, the pinholes ones are double bagged. I'll eventually start using the expensive ones, now that I learned they are a disease vector.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I certainly hope you filled them with something first.

I have a dwindling hoard, the pinholes ones are double bagged. I'll eventually start using the expensive ones, now that I learned they are a disease vector.

Nope. We produce about 1 small kitchen bag of trash per week. A bag that won't hold liquids isn't of any use.

We switched to reusable bags years ago and most of our shopping is at Costco which has never used bags. We load back into the cart and then into the car.

Plastic disposable bags mostly came from Home Depot.