Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-08-2016, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,882

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 500
Thanked 865 Times in 652 Posts
Could a complete Smartcar, motor and cradle be used as an engine swap?

Whole salvage smart cars seem to sell for very little.

I have an odd car that has some rather terrible issues that are very simple but no parts exist to address. (mid engine RWD)

I remember seeing someone take a full smartcar and remove the motor with cradle as a means of putting a motor under something else.

Does anyone remember who or where that was?

I am looking for examples and what all had to be pulled to make it happy.

There are a variety of oddities I can think of that would benefit from a 1 liter mid engine setup that just goes under the car.

I also imagine the 800cc diesel out of Canadia would be an amazing diesel swap for many antiques.

Thanx
Ryan

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-09-2016, 03:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: New Zealand for the last 40 years
Posts: 62

Smart - '04 Smart Forfour Passion

Smart - '04 Smart Forfour Passion
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
G'day Ryan,
I have got a Smart car myselve, but mine is a Smart Forfour with a 1.5 litre engine and they are front wheel drive. The Smart Fortwo have the engine in the back.
I think your best bet is to get in contact with..http//forfour.co.uk or..Evilution - Smart Car Encyclopaedia
Ive been in those rooms for about a year and had a lot of expert advice from the leaders and the people in those rooms, they are very knowledgeable about everything Smart.
Greetings,
Eddie.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 07:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,652
Thanks: 7,764
Thanked 8,575 Times in 7,061 Posts
Jason Torchinsky thinks it's a good idea.

I did a Google search on 'smart fortwo cutaway drawing' and found :


http://www.supplierbusiness.com/news/29762/suppliers-to-the-new-smart-forfour

Apparently the suspension is the same. I guess, worst case, you take the Smart unit body and cut it down into a subframe, or fab a subrame from scratch..

So what is the odd car in question? It would be interesting to stick one in the back of a VW Beetle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2016, 09:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,562
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,625 Times in 1,450 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
It would be interesting to stick one in the back of a VW Beetle.
And I was thinking I was the only one who eventually daydreamed about fitting a transverse engine in a Beetle
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 09:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
Tinkerer
 
kafer65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 284

Silver - '15 Mazda CX-5 Sport
Team Mazda
90 day: 37.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 63 Times in 54 Posts
I wonder if the engine is short enough to mount inline in a Beetle and clear the decklid?
__________________


Mirror deletes, 80% grill blocks, wheel covers, 50 psi tires = 6% better MPG avg. over a year. Wheel skirts overcoming ethanol winter fuel mpg losses and more!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ead-30641.html
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 10:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
GreenHornet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
Posts: 429
Thanks: 41
Thanked 108 Times in 68 Posts
The Avion uses the Smart for Two Diesel = Avion car goes border to border on one tank of diesel
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 12:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
cowmeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,659

Princess Carriage - '20 Ford Explorer Limited

Silver - '22 Ford Maverick Hybrid XLT w/tow pkg
Maverick Hybrids
90 day: 41.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 128
Thanked 764 Times in 461 Posts
I'm surprised that Hummer owners aren't just bolting a Smart to the back end and using it as a kicker motor.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 01:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoWalker
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,998

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 49.01 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,711
Thanked 2,245 Times in 1,454 Posts
Conversions using Smart ForTwo engines and drive trains are inevitably going to be named Smart-'S'es.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.


For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 03:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,562
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,625 Times in 1,450 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by kafer65 View Post
I wonder if the engine is short enough to mount inline in a Beetle and clear the decklid?
Such a small engine seems to be an easy fit. And I've already seen Beetles fitted with larger engines.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2016, 09:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
oldtamiyaphile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,510

UFI - '12 Fiat 500 Twinair
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 40.3 mpg (US)

Jeep - '05 Jeep Wrangler Renegade
90 day: 18.09 mpg (US)

R32 - '89 Nissan Skyline

STiG - '16 Renault Trafic 140dCi Energy
90 day: 30.12 mpg (US)

Prius - '05 Toyota Prius
Team Toyota
90 day: 50.25 mpg (US)

Premodded - '49 Ford Freighter
90 day: 13.48 mpg (US)

F-117 - '10 Proton Arena GLSi
Pickups
Mitsubishi
90 day: 37.82 mpg (US)

Ralica - '85 Toyota Celica ST
90 day: 25.23 mpg (US)

Sx4 - '07 Suzuki Sx4
90 day: 32.21 mpg (US)

F-117 (2) - '03 Citroen Xsara VTS
90 day: 30.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 325
Thanked 452 Times in 319 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by steddie View Post
G'day Ryan,
I have got a Smart car myselve, but mine is a Smart Forfour with a 1.5 litre engine and they are front wheel drive. The Smart Fortwo have the engine in the back.
The old ForFour was basically a Mitsubishi Colt (conventional FWD hatch). The new ForFour is rear engined and basically a stretched ForTwo.

__________________






  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to oldtamiyaphile For This Useful Post:
freebeard (03-12-2016)
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com