Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > DIY / How-to
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-24-2008, 03:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Potsdam, NY
Posts: 136

The Vue - '03 Saturn Vue
90 day: 25.34 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I've had pulstars installed in my corolla for about a month now.

I haven't done any A-B-A testing, however without drasticly changing my driving habits my mpg went from 33 to 35 over my normal commuting route.

both were repeatable and i dont think i drove much differently.

biggest gain i've gotten was from adjusting my driving habits. pulled out 42.07 mpg

__________________


  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 07-24-2008, 03:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
Boxy is Sexy
 
Z man's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 122

xBox - '05 Scion xB
90 day: 40.85 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Z man
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourigjm View Post
I've had pulstars installed in my corolla for about a month now.

I haven't done any A-B-A testing, however without drasticly changing my driving habits my mpg went from 33 to 35 over my normal commuting route.

both were repeatable and i dont think i drove much differently.

biggest gain i've gotten was from adjusting my driving habits. pulled out 42.07 mpg
That sounds good. I should have made a poll to see if they work for most people or not.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2008, 01:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
Z man -

Here is a thread on the subject :

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...bonus-767.html

The bottom line is that they didn't work for me, .

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 10:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
CEO
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pulstar pulse plugs

Hi guys. This is the CEO of Enerpulse, the maker of Pulstar pulse plugs. I see your interest in learning more about Pulstar. With all the hype out there, I can certainly understand your skepticism. Let me just say that Pulstar does not count on tip design (standard J gap) to ignited fuel. Generally, when you see a plug offering up a new tip design your should have a certain amount of skepticism.

We ignite fuel with power derived from a capacitor build into the plug. This boosts energy to the spark gap much like a camera flash boosts energy to light. This initiates ignition at a much larger aperture than a spark plug igniting more of the existing fuel in a a shorter period of time. Sort of like lighting a field of grass with a match or a bomb. Grass burns at a fixed rate, but if you initiate the burning with a larger area, the field will burn in a shorter period of time releasing all of it BTUs in that period of time. In a car BTU translates to cylinder pressure.

Sorry for the long winded discussion, but my challenge is to get consumers to understand our technology and why it is different from spark plugs. I will be happy to answer any questions you have and if one of you is willing to do a comprehensive test of the product and report your findings, I will make it available free. Email me at dparker@enerpulse.com.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 11:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Potsdam, NY
Posts: 136

The Vue - '03 Saturn Vue
90 day: 25.34 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
boo. coulda gotten mine for free for saying i was interested in testing!!?!

o well, amazon gave me a $10 discount. $90 for 4 pulse plugs wasnt too bad
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 12:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
CEO
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Testing

Well, it would have taken a little more that just saying you would test. But, you are right we often just have to trust people.

CarloSW2, I would very much like to understand your vehicle and test protocol. If you feel they didn't work maybe there is something wrong. We will stand behind our product. Give me details.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 03:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
dparker -

Thank you for posting on Ecomodder!

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparker View Post
Well, it would have taken a little more that just saying you would test. But, you are right we often just have to trust people.

CarloSW2, I would very much like to understand your vehicle and test protocol. If you feel they didn't work maybe there is something wrong. We will stand behind our product. Give me details.
One of your representatives (Kyle) contacted me on another forum. In the other thread, you will see my testing and results :

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...html#post47870

This is my specific posting on the subject :

http://ecomodder.com/forum/22699-post20.html - Post #20

In the above posting, I describe what happened but I *don't* come to the conclusion that the product won't work for all cars. During my interaction with Kyle, we came to the hypothesis that we didn't have the right gapping for my 1999 Saturn DOHC SW2. You state the same in the above thread. Most likely, Pulstar plugs had never been tested on my (out of production) engine.

I never paid for the Pulstar Plugs. But, I got cold feet when it didn't work twice, so I didn't want to do any more testing. It's my daily car, so I can't afford any down time.

CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 03:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
CEO
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
CarloSW2, you are probably right about our testing on your particular car. I certainly understand that you would not want to experiment any further. We do appreciate your honest try, though. We are constanly testing vehicles in our lab. and we occasionally find some that just don't like certain plugs by any maker. Just out of curiosity, were there other mods. to your engine that may have influenced your test? In any event, thanks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 04:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
dcb
needs more cowbell
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ˙
Posts: 5,038

pimp mobile - '81 suzuki gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Volkswagen Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 158
Thanked 269 Times in 212 Posts
That is all very polite sounding, but it seems the consensus here would indicate they don't work to help MPG. Do you recommend these $125 plugs for people hoping to improve mpg? Even on cleanmpg they did extensive testing and found no benefit, yet your site clearly implies these expensive plugs provide improved mpg ("tired of getting beat up at the pump")?

They don't seem to actually improve mpg from what I can tell, and they are exceptionally expensive for a spark plug. What are your lab testing methods and controls and how did you arrive at your mpg improvement claim before marketing this product?
__________________
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

Last edited by dcb; 07-26-2008 at 04:37 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2008, 04:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 530 Times in 356 Posts
dparker -

Quote:
Originally Posted by dparker View Post
CarloSW2, you are probably right about our testing on your particular car. I certainly understand that you would not want to experiment any further. We do appreciate your honest try, though. We are constanly testing vehicles in our lab. and we occasionally find some that just don't like certain plugs by any maker. Just out of curiosity, were there other mods. to your engine that may have influenced your test? In any event, thanks.
I think the only mod that might effect the test is my Hot-Air-Intake. That is the only mod which effects combustion (I didn't try the EFIE or the hydrogen gizmo during the test). It would have been running at IAT temperatures of around 120-130 degrees F. My car was running Denso Iridiums before and after the test, which might have put the car in a "Denso Iridium" mode. I made a point to reset the ECU/PCM during the testing, but the outcome was the same.

I think my DOHC aluminum block engine design goes back to circa 1989. I like to think of it as a "proto-Ecotec", but that really isn't true. It is a waste-spark ignition design. There are a lot of cars with this, like Jeeps, and the current Ecotec uses waste-spark also.

Here's my car and it's mods :

1999 Saturn SW2
Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com

CarloSW2

__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Technique quandary: gliding toward a stale green light - to pulse or not to pulse? MetroMPG Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 27 04-15-2010 12:41 AM
Pulse Plugs: Bogus or bonus? elhigh EcoModding Central 30 07-27-2008 03:27 AM
Old School hypermiler PULSE AND GLIDE Dragonova Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 13 07-08-2008 07:26 PM
Halo Spark Plugs DifferentPointofView EcoModding Central 1 01-28-2008 11:13 PM
Re-attempting Pulse and Glide (with an automatic) Lazarus Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 6 12-11-2007 08:06 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com