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Old 07-04-2020, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dodge 700 minitruck

What was the last too-small-for-the-U.S.-truck that we discussed? Is this the right place?

I apologize, I have the memory of... one of those orange fish...

I was trying to figure out Kanye West's 2020 Presidential platform and I ran across this: https://carbuzz.com/news/this-is-the...want-in-the-us

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What was the last too-small-for-the-U.S.-truck that we discussed? Is this the right place?

I apologize, I have the memory of... one of those orange fish...

I was trying to figure out Kanye West's 2020 Presidential platform and I ran across this: https://carbuzz.com/news/this-is-the...want-in-the-us
VW Saveiro? Myself and CrippleroosteR.* The Lounge was a strange choice.

Babelfish?

What path led from Presidential aspirants to Brazilian pick-em-up trucks?

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Old 07-05-2020, 02:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Saveiro! Get it right!

I saw the notification for the 700 when I was reading about Mr. West.

The first Jalopnik result definitely is not something that I read before. It is written by some guy named DeMuro who seems to believe that he is clever. People always think that small trucks would be successful:
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This is, of course, neglecting to remember the dozens of small truck failures over the years, like the GMC Sonoma, and the Chevrolet S-10, and the Ford Ranger, and the Mazda B-Series, and the Dodge Dakota, and the Suzuki Equator, and the Mitsubishi Raider, all of which had their time to shine and then were cancelled in the end because the only person buying them was the fleet manager for the U.S. Forest Service.
Do the people that want small trucks actually buy them when they are available?
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PROBLEM NUMBER ONE: Any automaker trying to sell a small truck in America would have to build it in America. This is due to something called the Chicken Tax, which is a tax created by chickens when they controlled the House and the Senate back during the fowl years of the late 1970s.
Is that close enough?
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PROBLEM NUMBER TWO: Foreign countries like small trucks way more than we do. If you visit Europe, or Asia, or Latin America, you’ll see compact trucks you’ve never heard of running around everywhere. The Mitsubishi L-Series. The Ford Ranger. There’s even something called the Volkswagen Amarok, which looks like it would be a pretty competitive little pickup, until you have to remove the entire front end to change the timing belt.
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[T]he 2016 Chevrolet Colorado, which is the last small truck General Motors will ever make, starts at $24,900 with a V6 engine and an automatic transmission. Meanwhile, the larger Chevrolet Silverado starts at $27,400, also with a V6 engine and an automatic transmission. In other words: only $2,500 separates the puny, pathetic, tiny “little truck” you’ll get laughed at for driving in Mississippi from the big, bold, brawny, full-size man’s truck that’ll give you all the street cred you could possibly want.
There is a great deal of room for improvement for both:

For any Philistines, this is the Amarok:

I need to ask, how hard did those companies try to sell those pickups? Do automakers ever try diligently to sell small vehicles with small profit margins?

Doug's post: https://jalopnik.com/is-ford-bringin...u-s-1828010259

We discussed the Ford Courier.
freebeard, both you and Crippled Rooster commented on that one:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ier-38217.html

The second Jalopnik result mentioned the Courier, which I found here.

I am going to play games now--or discuss heater cores. That is just as fun, right?

Right?
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I haven't seen this generation of the Fiat Strada/RAM 700 on the wild yet. Now it comes with the 1.4L Fire and the 1.3L GSE "Firefly" engines. It's not likely to feature any larger engine in order to not get too close to the Fiat Toro/RAM 1000 which has the E.torQ 1.8L engine as standard (and in some export markets the only one available).
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We will find out soon enough if the USA has the appetite for a smaller unibody truck. I present the 2021 Hyundai Santa Cruz:







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2021 Hyundai Santa Cruz
It's more likely to be closer in size to the Fiat Toro/RAM 1000 than to the Fiat Strada/RAM 700.

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