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Old 08-21-2021, 09:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If you look at the Quonset hut as an outer shell only, and build a seperate, enclosed, insulated living space inside them, they'd be quite efficient IMO.
I look at them mostly for their austere appearance, which would not be a problem for me if I were going to build one from scratch to use as a normal house, yet I would probably add other features such as adding dormer windows to its sides.
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Beg to differ.

The half cylinder has less area than a box of the same dimensions. The minimal surface area would be an hemisphere. ?
Useable area and area are different things, a slight vertical wall under the hut can solve the useable issue.

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But it's only half the story. Air stagnates inside a box. So long as it's not thwarted by internal partitions, the half cylinder will have an automatic air circulation driven by the temperature difference between inside and outside.

For spray on roofing Cork paint [is greater than] polyurethane foam. What's the mechanism for mold growing on metal? I know there's mold growing on the outside of the ISS, but what, trapped moisture?
Plain steel is notorious for mold problems due to constant condensation , most examples come from the container home movement when aspirating creatures are dwelling inside a box making constant humidity.

The external spray on roofing I mention is expensive but solves 99% of the issues mentioned, rust, maintenance, drafts, bridging, condensation, hardware issues are generally solved, worth noting It’s not that expensive compared to the labor and materials required to fix up a hut into an efficient home

Where I live people have converted lakeside WWII Huts to machine shops and the like but these are massive hangers with wooden end caps and interiors
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Useable area and area are different things, a slight vertical wall under the hut can solve the useable issue.
Quoth myself at #14
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Anyways, putting it on a stem wall completely changes the interior space. The wall can be counter height or door height. It really opens things up.
In the PNW wooden houses are notorious for black mold when people build and enclose a structure during the rainy seasons. any thermal break will help, enamel, foam insulation or cork paint.

The concave interior surface sets up a situation when air circulates in a rolling motion if interior partitions are placed where they don't interfere (across the bay).
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Thank you to everyone that has replied to my questions on Quonset huts.
While wasting time on Google Earth, I came across a plane parked in the woods.
On further research, I found out that a guy lives in the plane - a 727.
Which led to me researching plane homes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airplane_house
This Wikipedia page has some really eye opening claims :
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The entire project costs less than most suburban homes and requires less maintenance. Also there might be no mortgage on the property which means the owner will own their home without debt sooner. It is also a good home for first time buyers because it is inexpensive as well as a full size house. In addition to low building costs it is inexpensive to heat and cool. The fuselage is designed to be well insulated because aircraft fuselages must hold up to extreme cold at high altitudes.[6]

The average cost to build varies from about $35,000 to $55,000. This comprises the plane, land, plumbing, electrical, heating/air conditioning, and the cost of transporting the plane from the scrap yard.
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Is this just someone trolling on Wikipedia ?

Surely it can't be this cheap.

One of the main reasons I was attracted to a Quonset hut is because it looks like an aircraft hangar.
I'm crazy about planes, so naturally I'd love to actually live in one.

Anyone have any guesses if this is a real thing or not ?

I'd love to get a section of 747 and live in that, but I suspect that would cost a fortune.
Look at the room a 747 has :

So possibly a 737 passenger section split down the middle with a raised roof ?
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I like that interior but it looks like a conference room. Who has four couches in their living room.

Splitting a section of fuselage down the middle would ruin the monocoque structure. I'd just get as short a section of the widest fuselage as possible. The biggest problem with my 240 sq ft is it's narrow 4.5 to 1 fineness.
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That 747 is some dudes' private jet.
It probably IS a conference room, but it shows how much space the 747 has, even in flyable condition.
So splitting a smaller jet down the middle to widen it and increase height would ruin the monocoque structure.
How would this be detrimental in this application ?
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Just get a bigger airplane?


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I actually saw the An-225 fly above me on the way to work several years ago. ( no cell phone then, so no pics ! )
I pulled to the side of the road, go out of my car, and stared with my jaw wide open.
What luck to see the largest aircraft ever built.
And the only one in the world !
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I like that interior but it looks like a conference room. Who has four couches in their living room.

Splitting a section of fuselage down the middle would ruin the monocoque structure. I'd just get as short a section of the widest fuselage as possible. The biggest problem with my 240 sq ft is it's narrow 4.5 to 1 fineness.
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