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Old 02-25-2014, 06:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No Lex, porsche, bmw?!?!?! No Pilot, highlander, range rover?!?!?

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No Lex, porsche, bmw?!?!?! No Pilot, highlander, range rover?!?!?
Those were the tops. Report I was accessing gave list and numbers, none of the others mentioned :/
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I wonder how much weight they could strip down by removing all of the power this, electric that, etc. Back up cameras are nice, but really? It's not just Ford, they all do it. I need a radio and AC for the kids. Power locks and windows are good too. GPS, 17 speakers, steering wheel heaters, etc; it's a truck! Their purpose is to haul stuff and pull trailers, not to commute to work everyday.

If I am going to spend $30-50k+ on a vehicle, I am going to use it for what it was designed to do. Then again, I'd buy a really used one and save the rest of my money.
That's what the xl trim is made for. However I don't think they're all that much lighter. My friend's xlt crew cab with a few options weighs in at about 5700 pounds
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My 99 F150 stripper was right at 3800 and my Ranger is around 2900.

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That's what the xl trim is made for. However I don't think they're all that much lighter. My friend's xlt crew cab with a few options weighs in at about 5700 pounds
5,700 is still up there. That's 3,300 pounds heavier than my Civic...wow, I just put that into perspective for myself!!

But imagine a car, like a Civic, Versa, etc. They are much lighter and those electronic items could make a bit of a difference.
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My 99 F150 stripper was right at 3800 and my Ranger is around 2900.

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These are both single cabs, correct?
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Single Cabs, strippers, but with AC, which I hardly ever use, rubber floor mats. I paid $13.5k for the F150, brand new, used it to build a house and then sold it. The Ranger was $1650.

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A lot of the weight comes from fords massive over engineering. Just look at how massive their frames are. To put the f150 even more into perspective, my 2012 ram crew cab was only about 5300 pounds, 400 less than my friend's truck with the same options. I forget how much chevy/gmc weigh now but a few years ago I think they were around 4400 for the regular cab version.

I think every car would be able to squeak out 1-2 mpg better if companies would use lighter weight materials. My non power passenger seat alone weighs about 40 pounds, and my power driver seat is 60 pounds. 100 pounds just from 2 seats. I don't think it would cost ford that much money(in the grand scheme) to use aluminum for the seat mounts, sliders, and seat frames instead of steel

I honestly have no clue how my 2 door mustang can be a good 1200 pounds heavier than your civic, when they're both similar size. Even a corvette weighs more than your civic

Edit: as far as features go, a '14 base model auto civic weighs 2811 and a ex-l with nav auto weighs 2930 according(no pun intended) to Honda
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The original Mustang was a dollar a pound at $2395. Lighter than a Z car. My 37 Ford coupe weighed right at 2500. The new Mirage proves you can build light and strong but most people think a small light car is a death trap. I've driven cars that were legal in the US and weighed barely over 1000 pounds and survived to draw Social Security.

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A lot of the weight comes from fords massive over engineering. Just look at how massive their frames are. To put the f150 even more into perspective, my 2012 ram crew cab was only about 5300 pounds, 400 less than my friend's truck with the same options. I forget how much chevy/gmc weigh now but a few years ago I think they were around 4400 for the regular cab version.

I think every car would be able to squeak out 1-2 mpg better if companies would use lighter weight materials. My non power passenger seat alone weighs about 40 pounds, and my power driver seat is 60 pounds. 100 pounds just from 2 seats. I don't think it would cost ford that much money(in the grand scheme) to use aluminum for the seat mounts, sliders, and seat frames instead of steel

I honestly have no clue how my 2 door mustang can be a good 1200 pounds heavier than your civic, when they're both similar size. Even a corvette weighs more than your civic

Edit: as far as features go, a '14 base model auto civic weighs 2811 and a ex-l with nav auto weighs 2930 according(no pun intended) to Honda
My 05 weighs in at 24xx...a Civic gained 400 pounds in 9 years!

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