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Old 12-01-2019, 12:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Nowadays, most major automakers can make some "driveable" EV relying mostly on off-the-shelf components.
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It's a matter of battery, everything it's about battery and not the electric car itself.
Desperate times call for desperate vehicular architecture. Both American pure electric manufacturers utilize folded, laser-cut sheet metal for the monocoque body or backbone chassis.

It's like the trade-off in power/weight. If you can't change the battery, change the thing that carries it around.

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Old 12-01-2019, 05:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah I like to park the leaf next to big pickups to help them feel bigger.
But then when I pull a trailer load of wood or a load of tiles some how that's a challenge to their masculinity. I feel like some of them go buy a bigger pickup when they see an electric car pulling more than their short bed haf tun can carry.
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Your Leaf also pulls more than it can carry.
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Yeah it pulled 1,400lb of tiles almost like it wasn't there.
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When it comes to towing capacity, I don't think anything matches the Dannar 4.0, but just off-highway — like fording 4' of water with 0.5 Megawatt of battery power.
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Every yard is full of many single-use heavy equipment and maintenance vehicles that can be replaced by a single DANNAR 3.00 or 4.00. With a towing capacity in excess of 600,000 pounds and optional work arms with a 6,850 pound load capacity,the DANNAR out performs traditional skid steers or track loaders.
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Posted without comment? Hasn't Ford suggested a rematch?

HyperChange:Redwood Materials & Tesla’s Battery Recycling Plans
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The car of the future will have a million-mile body that only needs batteries, interior, and brakes (like the GT-40) replacement. I used to work in the electronics recycling industry. It was bad enough with CRTs before electric cars appeared.
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Yes, but Ford backs off Tesla Cybertruck tug-of-war rematch challenge, but Musk is doing it anyway

Fox was simply the first Google result.

Did you guys know that Dyson was building an electric car? Don't get excited, they already quit! Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

Well, he sure tried harder than I ever have. He determined that it simply wasn't commercially viable.
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Hybrid makes sense. Metro area.
All electric never did.

Vehicle spec is loaded with you, your family and with luggage/supplies sufficient to get far, far away.

Less than this in vehicle choice is total failure. Black/White when considering the limited net income today’s family's have.

One chance to get it right.

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I think generally a regular hybrid with a small battery makes more sense than all electric for most people.

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