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Old 12-08-2019, 10:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Vehicle spec is loaded with you, your family and with luggage/supplies sufficient to get far, far away.

Less than this in vehicle choice is total failure.
That is one end of a spectrum, at the other you have getting groceries.

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Old 01-08-2020, 12:18 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Unfortunatelly people don't want small short range vehicles.
I'm OK with some bare-bones small vehicles, but a short range is a compromise I wouldn't be willing to deal with.

Had something similar to this been able to sustain a speed more suitable to road traffic, I wouldn't disconsider
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I'm OK with some bare-bones small vehicles, but a short range is a compromise I wouldn't be willing to deal with.

Had something similar to this been able to sustain a speed more suitable to road traffic, I wouldn't disconsider
I saw a lot of similar vehicles in Peru with Batman stickers on them. I asked what the deal with the batman stickers was, and they asked what batman was.

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I saw a lot of similar vehicles in Peru
I have already seen plenty of utility tricycles in Brazil and Uruguay, just didn't have seen any of this Peruvian type before. What also surprised me is this one was repurposed from its passenger-carrying design into some sort of motorized hot dog cart.
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Definitely a way to go yet before customers start clamouring for electric vehicles instead of regulators twisting their arm to do so. A Leaf does something like 125MPGe, yet our Volvo can deliver 120MPG imp actual, and if you don't mind driving it in regular hybrid mode it can be refuelled in about a minute and has a range of over double that of the Leaf without refuelling.

So if the choice is down to the consumer alone without any regulatory pressure, why would they bother?
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Had something similar to this been able to sustain a speed more suitable to road traffic, I wouldn't disconsider
I would.

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Don’t ditch gasoline just yet: BMW argues electric cars are overhyped

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It appears that the last nail in the coffin of Internal Combustion Engine will be further down the road.

Well, at least for Honda and BMW.







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Looks like Honda Motor Corporation has outlived its usefulness to society,and a reason they'll be getting nothing from me in the future.
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Weight and traction win in tug of war. The cybertruck is most certainly heavier, and 4wd. The Ford may have been 4wd, but it certainly didn't look like it.

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Hybrid makes sense. Metro area.
All electric never did.

Vehicle spec is loaded with you, your family and with luggage/supplies sufficient to get far, far away.

Less than this in vehicle choice is total failure. Black/White when considering the limited net income today’s family's have.

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Getting a larger vehicle than necessary just for these long trips doesn't necessarily make sense. Of course it all depends on how frequent these trips are, but a yearly vacation does not necessitate a large vehicle. Getting a rental is not the end of the world. Selling a vehicle to get a more appropriate vehicle is also not the end of the world.


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Looks like Honda Motor Corporation has outlived its usefulness to society,and a reason they'll be getting nothing from me in the future.
Please tell me you are joking.

Honda has done so much for efficiency. CVCC, Lean burn, VTEC, refusing to make vehicles with more than 6 cylinders, making CARS mainstream, making one of the first hybrids, adopting OHV and OHC for lawn equipment while Briggs continued to make flatheads...

At the very least protest ford or chevy for pushing trucks and SUVs while killing off smaller options.

There are very few car companies which also make motorcycles(an alternative....), and Honda is one of them. One prominent efficient bike being the NC750X.

Way back in 2012 and around that time, the number of Nissan Leaves on the road was insane. It was typical to see two per mile traveled. This was back when Nissan was running a great lease deal with tax credit, which lots of people jumped on. Nowadays, I hardly see leaves anymore. Where did they go? I have no idea.

The Honda of today is not much of an innovator. When electric cars take a higher portion of the market, they will inevitably step it up.
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Looks like Honda Motor Corporation has outlived its usefulness to society,and a reason they'll be getting nothing from me in the future.
I don't know if I would go that far because they do have a point.
It is projected by DoE that even by 2030 that 70% of all passenger auto sales will still be straight nonhybrid gas burners.
It could be 2050 before pure electric takes half the market.
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Getting a larger vehicle than necessary just for these long trips doesn't necessarily make sense
Too bad the SUV craze has almost ended the availability of reasonable vehicles in countries such as Brazil. In the summer when there are lots of tourists from neighboring countries with a greater availability of small vans, most noticeably Argentina, it's easy to figure out how much more efficient some of those vans are compared to slightly larger SUVs.


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