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Old 11-21-2018, 11:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I have an unused length of 6/3 with an 8 gauge ground SO cable.
But I think I really only need 6/3 or 6/2 with 8 or 10 gauge ground. This charger should only need 2 hots and a ground.

It's an setec. I'm pretty sure I linked them some where here on this thread.

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Old 11-21-2018, 03:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have an unused length of 6/3 with an 8 gauge ground SO cable.
But I think I really only need 6/3 or 6/2 with 8 or 10 gauge ground. This charger should only need 2 hots and a ground.

It's an setec. I'm pretty sure I linked them some where here on this thread.
10 kw at 240V is about 40 amps, right? #6 is more than enough .. as you already knew. I had to look it up on a chart.

You are not using the neutral, so 6/2 would be fine as well. Ground sizing versus conductor sizing ... is more your area than mine. If you are drawing 40A then I think #10 is OK for the ground, even at full current. Again, by my chart.

I'm not conversant enough with our electrical code to quote what the ground cable should be. That said, I observe that many of our ground cables are significantly smaller than the continuous-current carrying conductors.
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8 gauge is made to handle 40 amps but not for continuous use. In the US we derate the wire to 80% for continuous use of 20 minutes to 3 hours.
The electrical code definition of "continuous use" varys a lot.

10kw charging anywhere I can get power is going to be tremendous.
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8 gauge is made to handle 40 amps but not for continuous use. In the US we derate the wire to 80% for continuous use of 20 minutes to 3 hours.
The electrical code definition of "continuous use" varys a lot.

10kw charging anywhere I can get power is going to be tremendous.
Hmm. Our rules are more different than I would have guessed. Link below. Up here #6 is good for 60A continuous at 75C temperature rise

https://www.technicalsafetybc.ca/sit...ampacities.pdf

These are the 2012 rules, I think. Our most recent rules (2016 maybe?) allow for a bit more ampacity than listed ... but they are not available for free online
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60 amps on 6 gauge, it's up to the electrical inspector.
Normally it's used for 50 amps max here.
Up to 100 amps for welding circuits.
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Looks like it should get here between Nov 30 and Dec 11.
The electrical is all ready to go.
Just put the style of plug I use on it and go.

It's coming from Canada so it will take a stupid amount of time to get here.
Probably won't even get here before December 11.

This is what I got.
https://www.evseadapters.com/product...-quick-charger

But I didn't pay anywhere near MSRP for it.
About 1/3 of MSRP, shipping included.
I figure I will use this a lot more than a new gun or silencer.
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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US Customs called me about the charger and questioned me.
WTF.
It's probably a good thing I answered my phone or they may have ripped it apart to "look for for drugs" or what ever BS probable cause that they usually come up with to wreck stuff.
This seems to me to be appalling waste of tax payer money.
I have bought stuff from China, Hong Kong or taiwan no problems.
But there is literally tons of phentanal coming over from china every year killing thousands of people.
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So this is a fancy adapter for your leaf to the world?
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It's a externally controlled high voltage DC power supply.

It will fit any CHAdeMO car or chademo motor cycle. Then if I ever get a tesla or CCS car I can buy the machine car interface cable or just get the CHAdeMO to tesla super charger adaptor.
But teslas already charge at 7.2kw I believe with the internal charger so not much advantage to 10kw charging.
So it will potentially work on any car with rapid DC charing.
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I got mine.
It puts out about 7.2kw on a low battery up to about 7.8kw above 3/4 charge.
Very happy.
Too bad I can't use the CHAdeMO and j1772 at the same time. In time perhaps.

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