It's all over but for the sweating?

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...so, Horace Greely's infamous quote "...Go WEST youngman..." evolves to become "...Go UP (as in vertical URBAN jungles) youngman...".

But there is no way to live decently in such a place. It's just the human equivalent to battery chicken farms.

[TheEnemy]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...and, how many of those "down trend" years coincided with volcano eruptions somewhere around the globe?

Good question, I'll work on finding out.

[TheEnemy]

http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/ROG2000.pdf

1982, and 1991, had major eruptions, I am still looking for more recent eruptions.

Both of them had an effect of 0.1 to 0.15C

[TheEnemy]

List of large volcanic eruptions in the 21st century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of large volcanic eruptions of the 20th Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The last couple of years have been pretty active, some do seem to correlate with down turns, others not so much. The last 8-10 years has still been pretty flat though temperature wise. It may or may not be related to a combination of the solar cycle and volcanic activity.

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by freebeard

...You've got the Raj, we've got the First Peoples. I like to think we are all better than that now.

I've read the rest and I don't fully agree but well put and good luck.

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

The problem there is that a growing (or a stable but large) population reduces living standards by the very fact of its existence. There simply isn't enough area on the planet for everyone to enjoy an adequate amount of open space, so the majority must be forced/persuaded to live crowded together in cities.

Famous "fact" from my youth is that everyone on Earth can fit onto the Isle of White



So, how would you deal with population growth ?

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by TheEnemy

List of large volcanic eruptions in the 21st century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of large volcanic eruptions of the 20th Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The last couple of years have been pretty active, some do seem to correlate with down turns, others not so much. The last 8-10 years has still been pretty flat though temperature wise. It may or may not be related to a combination of the solar cycle and volcanic activity.

Google the idea - it is not significant during the times when we have known about eruptions across the globe - not enough to make a link.

In 535 there were a number of catastrophic events, and also in 1315 and the "Year without summer" in 1816. It is worth noting in the Wiki-bloody-pedia article for the last of these the "unusual climate events" involved. We are currently being told that unusual events are something new because we drive and like warm houses.

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

Not to worry?

You are really posting the Hockey Stick - really ? Honestly do you still believe it ? Come on Suspect I thought more of you than this.

[TheEnemy]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Google the idea - it is not significant during the times when we have known about eruptions across the globe - not enough to make a link.

In 535 there were a number of catastrophic events, and also in 1315 and the "Year without summer" in 1816. It is worth noting in the Wiki-bloody-pedia article for the last of these the "unusual climate events" involved. We are currently being told that unusual events are something new because we drive and like warm houses.

Global warming is getting the blame for everything right now, then we are told its our fault. We are given evidence of global warming and told that it is a sign that it is our fault when it would be the same whether it is completely natural, our fault, or some combination of the two.

I have found Suspects articles as easy discredit as it has been to discredit the deniers arguments. Maybe with time we can get him to at least make better arguments supporting his position.

[NeilBlanchard]

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