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Old 12-05-2019, 02:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LG and GM are building a battery plant in Ohio

GM & LG Chem to create $2.3 billion battery cell venture for electric vehicles, to create 1,100 jobs in Ohio

"Construction of the plant is expected to begin in mid-2020." It will be near the plant that GM recently sold to an unspecified EV startup (Lordstown Motors). It is supposed to be among the largest in the world, yet they plan on producing 50% more battery capacity than Tesla and Panasonic's plant in Nevada, the current world leader.

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The jobs at the joint venture plant are expected to pay lower than top wages at the automaker’s assembly plants, however, Barra said they will be “very good paying jobs.”
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The guys who killed their own EV child back in the day? Really? Dumbasses.
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LG is a good company. Why did they pick losers for partners? I guess this was somehow a better opportunity than other automakers.
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How do you know they picked losers, especially if they didn't specify who the partner might be?

I like seeing manufacturing in the US.

GM's first EV never stood a chance from day 1. The problem wasn't that people didn't want to keep their leases, it was that the car was phenomenally unprofitable. You have 2 options when something is unprofitable:

1. Kill the unprofitable thing so you don't die
2. Die
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LG picked GM.
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The guys who killed their own EV child back in the day? Really? Dumbasses.
Yeah, it's ridiculous that they killed the Volt!

Ohhhhhh, you were talking about the EV1 . . . . they're just straight up EV killers over at GM!
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In no particular order, GM has bought and killed: Oldsmobile, Cartercar, Elmore, Ewing, Pontiac, Geo, Saab, and what else?

GM tried to buy Ford in 1910, the CEO was forced out, and he co-founded Chevrolet.
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GM has introduced 2 generations of Volt, a Spark EV, and currently offers the most excellent Bolt EV.

You can only kill what you have; which GM has a lot more than other manufacturers. Can't ever blame someone for trying.
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And with the EV1 killed that stupid paddle charger.
J1772 is so much better.
Just think we could have been stuck with something as complicated and expensive as a chademo that only puts out 6.6kw, with 10% more losses.
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I mean they used lead acid batteries with Low cycle lives and terrible range. It was meant to be killed. Did y'all not see how bad the Ford Ranger electric sucked? lol
This is a HUGEly good thing. The reason why Hyundai is so competitive with the ecar market is because of their proximity to the battery manufacturers in their home company. Should be good to see the improvements of this.
I'm assuming the EV1 would've been similar to the Gen 1 Leaf with much worse results.

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