Looking to purchase a new vehicle (requirements: 30 cubic feet cargo, 30 mpg minimum)

[2000mc]

chevy equinox 31.4cu ft w/ the seats up and 32mpg hwy for 2010 and on

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by MPGranger

Basically multiply the JC08 fuel economy by 1.3 to get what the EPA figures will state. 44 turns into 57! But they also have a conversion from NEDC (Europe) to US by multiplying by 1.15. So using the figure of 61.4 MPG combined in Europe from my previous post, I get 70.61.

Can't be right.

US EPA MPG numbers are always lower than NEDC numbers.


Read :
US testing is far more realistic for the average driver.
NEDC is pretty hard to beat , few drivers do so.

[MPGranger]

2000mc- sorry buddy, looking for 30 MPG combined. That really weeds out most vehicles I've been looking at. A friend of mine has one, it is really nice, though. But the Fuel Economy is just a little too low.

Euromodder- the chart did say CAFE (corporate average fuel economy). It's American, but maybe it is fundamentally different than EPA. But then again, maybe the chart is bad. Looks like I got some homework to do!

[PaleMelanesian]

CAFE is much higher than EPA. EPA is derived from the CAFE test, but the numbers are adjusted down by a large margin. A rough estimate is EPA = CAFE * .75.

You can download a spreadsheet of the numbers here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/download.shtml
City FE, Hwy Fe and Comb FE are the posted EPA numbers.
City Unadj and Hwy Unadj are the CAFE numbers.

The TDI Sportwagen is 30/42 EPA, but 38.7 / 59.9 CAFE.

[MPGranger]

So something interesting has developed...

We were looking at an automatic Mazda CX5 Highway MPG 32. All the sudden the GMC Terrain and Chevy Equinox and Kia Sportage and Hyundai Tucson all are getting 32 MPG

Somebody has been sandbagging FE technology. Surprise, surprise...

[2000mc]

shifting away from looking for combined mileage to focusing on hwy? whats new about the equinox and terrain?

[MPGranger]

Gasoline direct injection

[taco]

Originally Posted by MPGranger

Gasoline direct injection

yes go with the mazda.
my sister awd cx-5 is getting 29-33mpg.

[MPGranger]

Okay, so my wife called an audible and switched to liking sedans, in a dealership no less. So we finally settled on a 2013 Nissan Altima. We got enough room to fit a stroller in the back with luggage for a family trip. The beast gets 29/31/39 FE, which is cool because the 2012 gets 32 highway. I used fueleconomy.gov and the only sedans that got better FE were hybrids and diesels, wife isn't ready for a hybrid yet. The VW Passat got a few more MPGs but also uses a more expensive fuel and needs an exhaust system additive to meet EPA.

So my online research says that Nissan wasn't investing in Direct Injection, but the Nissan site says it has DI, so my question is what is Nissan Direct Injection and how does it differ from other manufacturers?

But nissan has dual overhead cams with both the intake and exhaust having variable timing. And some variable intake trickery. But they overhauled the CVT less friction, larger ratio spread. I read somewhere that it will do 100MPH at 2,500 RPM (not that I will ever find that out!)

My biggest problem is that my wife LOVES the remote start and using the car to hands free phone calls and chat away while parked and idling. And the thing has a push button start with no accessory position, so either the car is on or the car is off. She is not even meeting the EPA city so far. Maybe it's her lead foot as well...

Any tips for CVT hypermiling??

[ksa8907]

Glad you're happy with your purchase. Might have to wait for engine break-in for better economy.