Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-08-2012, 10:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,514

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,060
Thanked 6,959 Times in 3,603 Posts
Taylors drive a Passat diesel 1626 miles on one tank - 84 mpg (US), 39 mph avg*

Quote:
In driving from Houston, Texas to Sterling, Virginia, the Taylors drove 1,626 miles on a single 19.322 gallon fill of clean diesel. That equates to an average economy figure of 84.1 miles per gallon.

The Taylors were determined to make it a proper test too, rather than making it too easy. To that end, all the driving was done during the day in normal traffic conditions, rather than at night. The car was completely standard--a 140hp, 2.0-liter TDI, with a six-speed manual transmission--with 120 pounds of luggage in the trunk. The Taylors took turns at driving, and drove no more than 14 hours per day.
More: 1600 Miles On One Fill? Meet The Taylors And Their VW Diesel

* Assuming they drove 14 hours each of their 3 days on the road, that's an average speed of 39 mph.


__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 05-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 150

Silver Bullet - '02 VW Golf TDi
Thanks: 5
Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts
The mpg is really impressive until one considers their average speed of 39 mph. Several years ago my wife drove our Golf TDi from Washington State (exit 59 on I-5) to near San Francisco doing 55 on cruise control on the flats, and slowing to 50 on cruise going up the passes...and averaged 72 mpg. My dad had died and my mom wanted me to take his old Ford truck home ('76 E250 with carb'd 460 CID gasser ), which itself averaged 11 mpg on that trip.

TDi drivers quickly learn that with a manual you can plan an mpg by subtracting your mph from 120 on flat ground. For the Taylors that works out to about 120-39=81, so they did a little better than nominal. Maybe they did a little p&g along the way...
__________________
Best tank ever: 72.1 mpg in February 2005, Seattle to S.F.
New personnal best 'all-city' tank June '08 ... 61.9 mpg!
Thanks to 'pulse-n-glide' technique.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Stan For This Useful Post:
MetroMPG (05-08-2012), Piwoslaw (05-09-2012)
Old 05-08-2012, 12:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,514

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 52.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,060
Thanked 6,959 Times in 3,603 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan View Post
The mpg is really impressive until one considers their average speed of 39 mph.
Exactly. I mean, it's still impressive, but also relatively slow.

That's why I always ask people about average speed when they post eye-popping fuel economy numbers (and why I always post mine).

People need context to understand just how "realistic" the results are (and everyone brings a different definition of what's a "realistic" average speed).
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MetroMPG For This Useful Post:
JasonG (05-09-2012), user removed (05-08-2012)
Old 05-08-2012, 08:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5,927
Thanks: 877
Thanked 2,024 Times in 1,304 Posts
I have to agree, it's not that hard to get unreal mileage if you average 22 MPH. I think I got past 90 on my brothers 1990 Civic with TB injection and a 4 speed. I was using a dvom to read the voltage of the sending unit and many times after a 18 mile round trip the gas in the tank heated up enough to actually make the second reading higher than the first. Had to measure the tank temperature and wait until it was the same to get decent readings.

regards
Mech
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 01:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Diesel_Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,194

White Whale - '07 Dodge Ram 2500 ST Quad Cab 2wd, short bed
Team Cummins
90 day: 37.68 mpg (US)
Thanks: 112
Thanked 511 Times in 213 Posts
84 mpg VW Passat

I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this yet, but I saw this articel on Fox News today:
Couple squeezes 84 MPG out of diesel Volkswagen Passat | Fox News
__________________
Diesel Dave

My version of energy storage is called "momentum".
My version of regenerative braking is called "bump starting".

1 Year Avg (Every Mile Traveled) = 47.8 mpg

BEST TANK: 2,009.6 mi on 35 gal (57.42 mpg): http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...5-a-26259.html


  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 01:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: california
Posts: 1,329
Thanks: 24
Thanked 161 Times in 107 Posts
I wonder how much gas was wasted because other drives had to slam the brakes then re accelerate because these people were blocking traffic.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 02:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Diesel_Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,194

White Whale - '07 Dodge Ram 2500 ST Quad Cab 2wd, short bed
Team Cummins
90 day: 37.68 mpg (US)
Thanks: 112
Thanked 511 Times in 213 Posts
39 mph average may not necessarily be as slow as it sounds. I think I read that the EPA highway cycle averages about 45 mph.
__________________
Diesel Dave

My version of energy storage is called "momentum".
My version of regenerative braking is called "bump starting".

1 Year Avg (Every Mile Traveled) = 47.8 mpg

BEST TANK: 2,009.6 mi on 35 gal (57.42 mpg): http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...5-a-26259.html


  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 02:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Sven7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Warren, MI
Posts: 2,456

Boo Radley - '65 Ford F100
90 day: 13.28 mpg (US)
Thanks: 782
Thanked 668 Times in 410 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjts1 View Post
I wonder how much gas was wasted because other drives had to slam the brakes then re accelerate because these people were blocking traffic.
I wonder how much gas is wasted from people driving full size pickups 85mph everywhere they go.

If there was no one around I can see doing 40 ish. Yesterday I got away with P&EOC'ing from 40 or 45 to 65. People didn't slam on their brakes so much as just move into the adjacent lane.
__________________
He gave me a dollar. A blood-soaked dollar.
I cannot get the spot out but it's okay; It still works in the store
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 02:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoMod Proof of Concept
 
WD40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Chilliwack B.C. CANADA
Posts: 245

WD-40's Insight - '00 Honda Insight
Gen-1 Insights
Team Honda
90 day: 56.04 mpg (US)

WD-40's Mirage - '15 Mitsubushi Mirage ES
Mitsubishi
90 day: 46.05 mpg (US)

WD-40's Sonata Hybrid - '17 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Limited
Thanks: 81
Thanked 85 Times in 45 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjts1 View Post
I wonder how much gas was wasted because other drives had to slam the brakes then re accelerate because these people were blocking traffic.
This is what you honestly expect us to believe they experienced?
On my worst day of holding back traffic ( doing the speed limit ) the worst I have ever experienced is the "professional" truck drivers pushing me (literally feet away) and then passing while giving the one finger salute, and then the finale .. cutting me off while they get back into the "slower traffic keep right lane"
Mostly its the professionals that give me cause for concern, the average driver happily follows someone doing the limit or slower as they are usually multi tasking anyway.
__________________
2000 Insight MT 106K Citrus A/C
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2012, 02:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Diesel_Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,194

White Whale - '07 Dodge Ram 2500 ST Quad Cab 2wd, short bed
Team Cummins
90 day: 37.68 mpg (US)
Thanks: 112
Thanked 511 Times in 213 Posts
I just found the number, the average speed of the EPA highway cycle (highway fuel economy test- HWFET) is 48.3 mph.

__________________
Diesel Dave

My version of energy storage is called "momentum".
My version of regenerative braking is called "bump starting".

1 Year Avg (Every Mile Traveled) = 47.8 mpg

BEST TANK: 2,009.6 mi on 35 gal (57.42 mpg): http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...5-a-26259.html


  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com