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Old 02-19-2014, 09:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You want to piss your parts? Get a camera capable of seeing IR light and turn it to the sky at night. 3rd generation night vision or even a cheap cell phone camera can spot the DRONES already in use.



Now couple this with the DHS License Plate Database...


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Old 02-19-2014, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Back in the 70's the Philly parking enforcement used cameras to identify violators. Trouble was people from the other end of the state were getting parking tickets. The poodoo really hit the fan when the mayor of Pittsburgh got a bogus parking ticket. We drive a silver Dodge Caravan and it is always a treat finding the right one in the parking lot. Imagine if the people who have the same make and color of car decided to swap license plates for a few days at a time Soon we can all wear hoodies and Halloween masks in public. Having someone use your debit card could be a dandy alibi. NCIS LA is one of my favorite shows. Think how to use the systems to your advantage.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Sorry, but the "doubting Thomas" in me says, "...sounds more like DHS is just going 'underground' with their plans rather than 'public' with them."
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Great... However, this will not just go away. With the current uproar about NSA wrong doings, it was taken off the front burner and more than likely moved to simmer on the back burner, just waiting to be deployed at a later date.

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Hope my plates don't get stolen.
Nothing can be done to stop this. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy for what can be viewed from a legal vantage point (tracking included). REP is nearly zero with vehicles.
This is a peeve of mine, so I'll stop it right here before it turns into a complete rant about it (or sucked into the whole drones, public vantage point, curtilage, and the line between heaven and hell side topic).
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The thing that keeps me up the most at night is that they can now frame and convict you and catch you if you try and run no matter what you do.

Cell phones, no matter how old, are government mandated tracking devices.
Tablets with cellular chips, or simply ones with wifi enabled are tracking devices now that google records and tracks wifi AP names.
Windows XP-Windows 7-8 based computers are tracking devices, pretty clear cut there, the only Windows OS I trust to not have a backdoor is Win NT.

So even if you do run, there is no where to hide.

ALL of this technology is moving towards one thing, the ability of any government official with access to this amount of data to simply enter in your full name, and date of birth, into a computer, and let the computer find you.

Even if you have no modern gadgets, moder cars today still have them built in.
Even if you have a classic car, the number plate is still there and as soon as you drive past a speed camera or a surveilance camera, your plate enters into a database.

Road spikes to take out car tyres, even if you have run flat tyres they can knock you off the road.

All of this to me feels like they are building up towards a prison system for the public at large, and that prison system is probably going to be used to silently cull under the guise of a disease breakout.

Its either that the governments aren't telling us for our own good that the world is going to run out of food rather abruptly sometime in the future, OR that we are all being set up for harvesting for space aliens.

I for one will enjoy bob on a stick, either that or go fishing.

I however promise not to eat anybody who is still alive.

All I know for sure however is that I am on the right forum for surviving what is to come. Fuel economy is going to become a HUGE issue when stuff hits the fan, nevermind all of these 4x4's running around and running over people, they will be running out of fuel first.

And imagine this scenario, you are coming home from work and the petrol stations are over run, something has gone horribly wrong, nobody can get fuel, you however are sitting on 3/4 full and can just simply drive straight home, where it is safest.

I however strongly recommend that people here install either fuel cells inside of their car (and leave them empty, fuel cells leak.) or get two metal jerry cans and leave them on their property at all times, with fuel no older than 6 months. Also you can go the drastic measure of putting a crash plate over your fuel tank so nobody can drill into the fuel tank (this is what they do in europe to steal fuel.)

If you don't have fuel in your car then you aren't going anywhere, and if you do manage to find some it may only be a litre or two, which in the right car can take you anywhere.



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You have no reasonable expectation of privacy for what can be viewed from a legal vantage point (tracking included). REP is nearly zero with vehicles.
You also have no reasonable expectation of privacy on the phone, in your snail mail, emails, and texts, walking down the street, gassing up at the station, cashing your check at the bank, buying cat food at a store, sleeping in your bed at home, posting on fuel saving forums, or surfing porn on the net.

That's OK though, because the USA is the greatest country on Earth, what with all the freedom and stuff.
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As one eluded to before, it's not over. I doubt it was just going to start when they posted it. Why wouldn't they just do it? What are we going to do to stop it, or get away?

Frustrating, and I doubt it will ever be offered as an alibi...only to condemn.

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