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I'm surprised that the Honda CRX didn't make the list - especially since the article used a picture of one for an illustration!
And it's unfair to lump the manual and CVT Insights together...
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06-11-2010, 09:06 AM
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I'm surprised that the Honda CRX didn't make the list - especially since the article used a picture of one for an illustration!
And it's unfair to lump the manual and CVT Insights together...
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i think thats what they are reffering to as the "1986-87 Honda Civic Coupe HF 5MT (42/51/46)" since the picture is a pre 88-91 crx. |
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06-11-2010, 01:58 PM
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Neil -
Here you go :
If you want, I'll make a thread on it.
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Please do so! I am looking for more information on this car.
Years ago, I came across information on the Peugeot VERA+, its successor.
An excerpt from an article I've been working on:
In 1982 Peugeot also gave consumers a glimpse of its VERA and VERA+ concept cars. Unlike the ECO 2000, these cars used 50 horsepower turbo diesel engines[41]. The VERA+ had a 0.22 drag coefficient, 1,740 lbs curb weight, and achieved 55 mpg city, 87 mpg highway[42]. The VERA+ also had performance comparable to the commercially available cars of its time, with 0-60 mph acceleration in 13.2 seconds and a top speed of 100 mph[43].
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[41] Bleviss, D. (1988). The New Oil Crisis and Fuel Economy Technologies. New York: Quorum Books
[42] Ibid.
[43] Audi Sport Collection. (2007, June 29). Magazine : L'Audi 2000 face ŕ ses rivales. Retrieved June 29, 2007 from http://www.audisportcollection.com/ASC2006/392.php
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06-11-2010, 03:46 PM
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jalopnik and top ten anyhting...
one would have to be in SoCal to respect it. ..like a CARB standard.
the champs here are no hondas at all. Not a single one.
the 3 main subes...those not only kicked butt... you can still see them welded into truck status and still running. the location and little sideways mounted 12 inch wheeled wonders are a no go.
and 1984.. there was even a miraculous gigantic LTD/grand marquis hitting 30 mpg with a carburator (as ford advertised..and it really did it)
Jalopnik is repulsive when it comes to thinking outside their own ghetto. This tiny mind is even with mods at some forums.
Don't trust top ten anything internet.
Someone could step up like a perfect king and insult the whole thing with deeper facts.
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06-12-2010, 12:28 AM
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I'm surprised that the Honda CRX didn't make the list - especially since the article used a picture of one for an illustration!
And it's unfair to lump the manual and CVT Insights together...
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"1986-87 Honda Civic Coupe HF 5MT (42/51/46)" Refers to the CRX, aka Civic Coupe by insurance companies and many gov't registrations offices.
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06-14-2010, 09:35 PM
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the champs here are no hondas at all. Not a single one.
Jalopnik is repulsive when it comes to thinking outside their own ghetto. This tiny mind is even with mods at some forums.
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Hate to differ with a fan of the Subaru, but there are a couple hondas on the list. And the list is compiled by the EPA according to the article, not Jaloponik. Just trying to set the record straight :P
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I think you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that it's not rational to do either speed or fuel economy mods for economic reasons. You do it as a form of recreation, for the fun and for the challenge.
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06-14-2010, 09:57 PM
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jalopnik and top ten anyhting...
one would have to be in SoCal to respect it. ..like a CARB standard.
the champs here are no hondas at all. Not a single one.
the 3 main subes...those not only kicked butt... you can still see them welded into truck status and still running. the location and little sideways mounted 12 inch wheeled wonders are a no go.
and 1984.. there was even a miraculous gigantic LTD/grand marquis hitting 30 mpg with a carburator (as ford advertised..and it really did it)
Jalopnik is repulsive when it comes to thinking outside their own ghetto. This tiny mind is even with mods at some forums.
Don't trust top ten anything internet.
Someone could step up like a perfect king and insult the whole thing with deeper facts.
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Did... you even read the post?
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2000 Honda Insight 5MT CVT (49/61/53)
2010 Toyota Prius (51/48/50)
1986 Chevrolet Sprint ER 5MT (44/53/48)
1990-1994 Geo Metro XFI 5MT (43/52/47)
1986-87 Honda Civic Coupe HF 5MT (42/51/46)
1994-95 Honda Civic Hatchback VX 5MT (39/50/43)
2006-2010 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT (40/45/42)
2010 Honda Insight CVT (40/43/41)
2001-2003 Toyota Prius CVT (42/41/40)
1989 Chevrolet Sprint/Suzuki Swift 5MT (38/45/41)
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06-15-2010, 07:38 AM
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I had to double take that, not one euorpean car and not one diesel, then i realised it was for the US.... even saying that I'm shock no TDi's made it onto the list
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06-16-2010, 02:02 AM
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I had to double take that, not one euorpean car and not one diesel, then i realised it was for the US.... even saying that I'm shock no TDi's made it onto the list
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In the link there is two seperate lists provided by the EPA, one based on their rating numbers (what you see here), and one based on reported MPG from drivers, where there are several TDIs 
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"All I know about music is that not many people ever really hear it. [...] But the man who creates the music is hearing something else, is dealing with the roar rising from the void and imposing order on it as it hits the air. What is evoked in him, then, is of another order, more terrible because it has no words, and triumphant, too, for the same reason. And his triumph, when he triumphs, is ours." -Sonny's Blues
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06-20-2010, 04:18 AM
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Please do so! I am looking for more information on this car.
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Sorry for the late reply. I made an album of all the pictures in the Car Styling magazine :
Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - cfg83's Album: 1981 Peugeot Vera
The magazine didn't number the mods, so the numbers I inserted are my best guess of the mods in relation to the bar graph. I couldn't find a mod that "matched" #7, so it's a mystery as far as I can tell.
I just noticed that this appears to be the source of the drawings :
G. Roussillon: Aerodynamic optimization of the Peugeot VERA-01. Impact of aerodynamics on vehicle design. Inder-science enterprises Ltd. UK.
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