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MetroMPG 05-10-2019 06:16 PM

The 12 quickest cars (with engines) with 40+ mpg EPA highway ratings
 
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I tried to guess what would be on the list, and fared poorly. I's outta the loop!

I've never really cared about acceleration performance. I hear it's addictive. (I drove a 4-cylinder Suzuki Swift once!!) Slippery slope?





12) Chevrolet Cruze
31/48 mpg city/highway (sedan); 30/45 mpg (hatchback)
0-60 mph: 8.4 seconds (hatch)

11) Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
40/46 mpg (SE)
8.3 seconds

10) Lexus ES 300h
43/45 mpg
7.8 seconds

9) Volkswagen Jetta
30/40 mpg
7.6 seconds

8) Hyundai Sonata Plug-In Hybrid
37/42 mpg
7.6 seconds

7) Honda Clarity Plug-In
44/40 mpg
7.5 seconds

6) Chevrolet Volt
43/42 mpg
0-60 mph: 7.5 seconds

5) Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
49/43 mpg
7.4 seconds

4) Toyota Camry Hybrid LE
51/53 mpg
7.4 seconds

3) Honda Insight
55/49 mpg (LX, EX)
7.3 seconds

2) Honda Civic Touring Sedan
32/42 mpg
6.8 seconds

1) Honda Accord Hybrid
48/48 mpg
6.7 seconds

Read the article: https://www.motortrend.com/news/12-q...igher-highway/

fusion210 05-10-2019 07:01 PM

The Camry is up to 51/53 now? That's impressive.

MetroMPG 05-11-2019 07:52 AM

This list omits EV's.

Even a "boring" base Nissan Leaf does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds with the small battery; 6.5 seconds with the optional larger battery, according to MT. Quick enough to beat all these gassers.

I suspect people still have the impression that EV's are slow (with some exceptions... Tesla).

A friend of mine (who's a "car guy") recently bought a GTI. He commutes 180 km / ~110 mi daily. He said he would have loved a Tesla 3, but for the cost. I asked why he didn't go for a cheaper Chevy Bolt instead, and he said "too slow" (though he admitted he didn't research the numbers).

We looked it up, and the Bolt is within a tenth or two to 60 as quick as his GTI.

vskid3 05-12-2019 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fusion210 (Post 597802)
The Camry is up to 51/53 now? That's impressive.

Makes you wonder what they're doing wrong with the Prius. Prius gets similar mileage, weighs 4-500lbs less, and takes about 2.5 seconds longer to get to 60. I'm betting the Camry has a perpetual motion machine hidden under the hood. ;)

mpg_numbers_guy 05-12-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vskid3 (Post 597891)
Makes you wonder what they're doing wrong with the Prius. Prius gets similar mileage, weighs 4-500lbs less, and takes about 2.5 seconds longer to get to 60. I'm betting the Camry has a perpetual motion machine hidden under the hood. ;)

You'd have to take a look at the real world numbers. Toyota hybrid EPA ratings seem to be all over the place, especially considering how widely mileage can vary depending on weather and driving style.

hat_man 05-12-2019 03:40 PM

Recently saw a Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor with the Performance Package. I had never heard of it. The guy driving it said 0-60 in something like 3.x seconds and then left me staring at his taillights at the stop light. I had the windows down and hardly heard a sound. He said something about if you saw the Tesla with a red line below the emblems it had the performance package. I haven't read about it yet but his car was pretty impressive.

Vman455 05-12-2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vskid3 (Post 597891)
Makes you wonder what they're doing wrong with the Prius. Prius gets similar mileage, weighs 4-500lbs less, and takes about 2.5 seconds longer to get to 60. I'm betting the Camry has a perpetual motion machine hidden under the hood. ;)

Note: the Camry only gets a 52 mpg rating in its lowest trim, LE. The XLE and SE hybrid are rated 46 mpg. The LE probably slots into a lower weight class, since it squeaks in under 3500 lbs while the XLE and SE are above that, so the correction factor applied to the final result is more generous. Same thing happens with the Prius LE Eco vs. all the other trims.

mattrod 05-30-2019 03:28 AM

Interesting list. I'm planning to buy a Civic this year.

redpoint5 05-30-2019 05:19 AM

Interesting to see the Sonata plug-in is faster to 60, but has a significantly lower MPG rating. I wonder why that is?

Seems the Accord hybrid is the one to get. Prius-like fuel economy without Prius-like acceleration.

All that said, my next personal vehicle will be an EV.

Ecky 06-04-2019 12:40 PM

How about a new #1?

50+ MPG highway cruising, 0-60 <4.5 seconds (and<4 seconds with different tires).

The shop that helped me with much of the fabrication had some explicit words for me when I told them I still haven't exceeded 75mph.

https://i.imgur.com/fRvpaN5.jpg

War_Wagon 06-04-2019 11:29 PM

There's a Tesla with a gutted interior that beats up on all sorts of cars at the dragstrip, it's on youtube if you search "gutted tesla"

I wonder how slow a Civic VX or a CRX HF are at 0-60? They weigh nothing, but the VX at least has a bit of power. Not much, but a bit haha.

Kzelisko 06-05-2019 04:41 PM

Dunno bout the hf, but the vx 0-60 was something like 9.6 seconds to 60, not bad at all really. Mine had the 3.25 final drive but the ex/si gearset and would be about a nose ahead of my brother's 1990 e34 525i in a drag race until I got to 3rd, then he'd start to pull on me.

LeanBurn 06-05-2019 05:08 PM

My Si could be on the list of above 40mpg and low 6's 0-60mph...if I could keep my foot out of it...but...I just cant'...so I'll settle for 37-39mpg.

19bonestock88 06-06-2019 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecky (Post 599471)
How about a new #1?

50+ MPG highway cruising, 0-60 <4.5 seconds (and<4 seconds with different tires).

The shop that helped me with much of the fabrication had some explicit words for me when I told them I still haven't exceeded 75mph.

https://i.imgur.com/fRvpaN5.jpg


Not even just one trip into triple digits to see how it feels? (Could it even do that before?)

Ecky 06-06-2019 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19bonestock88 (Post 599607)
Not even just one trip into triple digits to see how it feels? (Could it even do that before?)

They'd top out around 115 (give or take) without the IMA working and maybe 125 with a good battery.

Where am I safely going to do 100mpg around here? Most of our roads are 35-50mph. I don't think there's a road in the state with a speed limit above 65, and there are only 2 (?) of those.

:turtle:

mpg_numbers_guy 06-06-2019 10:30 PM

A track? Do it before you get 6th gear in and a fuel economy gauge installed, that way you have more of an excuse to let loose in it once or twice. Plus, if you start out with lower mileage, your LMPG can only go up from there, rather than later down the road when your LMPG is high and a track day would hurt your hard-earned lifetime average.

Okay, I'll stop trying to be a bad influence now. :D


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