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RandomFact314 08-05-2009 05:43 PM

1991 CRX hf
 
So I have been thinking alot about getting a 88-91 crx hf, I used to have a crx 4 years ago and don't remember many of the details about it (besides it drove like heaven) So I have a few questions I'm sure you guys can help with (especially SVOboy) So here are a few questions I have:
1) Should I REALLY get rid of my perfect neon for a crx? is it a bad idea considering how old crxs are?
2) Like my car obviously has a OBD2 or whatever for a scangauge2, what does a crx have? OBD1? What kind of instrumentation would I use for a crx? SC1?
3) Do crxs have cruise control?
4) Do they have power steering? (I know mine didn't, if it did it was broken)
5) The d15b6 engine is the best engine for the crx right?
6) are crx parts hard to find? (I hate e-bay so besides that website)
7) If I DID get rid of the neon for a crx, would I most likely have to replace parts on it really often since its so old (like I had to with the fiero?)

Thank you for whatever help you can give me :p

Christ 08-05-2009 07:26 PM

1) Yes. CRX's are more fun to drive.
2) CRX's are non-OBD, unless you update the car. Getting an HF doesn't give you an update option without losing the HF engine, so the only real choice is to go to a D15Z1 engine and full ECU swap.
3) No, except maybe the Si models, which would be able to be retrofitted to your HF
4)HF doesn't, Si's do. Some DX's I think. If you don't want it, the Civic and Civic DX racks will fit easily, they only take an hour to change.
5)Not even close, but the B6 is the 8-valve EGR'd version of the D-series engine, which will get you ~50 MPG w/o trying, if you keep it running correctly.
6)Depends on what parts, but not particularly. Some people want to charge a mint for them, though.
7)No, Hondas are actually very reliable. I hardly ever had to replace too many parts, excepting maintenance items, like ball joints and tie rods.

RandomFact314 08-05-2009 08:41 PM

well the best mpg crx is the 88 and 89 hf according to the epa. I DO however what cruse control and power steering. The problem is I see the worst epa crx is 26 and the best is 45, If I got a crx i want one that will has at least a 40 epa and let me be able to get 50s,60s or more mpg... I do not know how to swap an engine at all so in your opinion what crx should I be looking for? my old crx was a 89 si...... It has to be a 88-91

Christ 08-05-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomFact314 (Post 119788)
well the best mpg crx is the 88 and 89 hf according to the epa. I DO however what cruse control and power steering. The problem is I see the worst epa crx is 26 and the best is 45, If I got a crx i want one that will has at least a 40 epa and let me be able to get 50s,60s or more mpg... I do not know how to swap an engine at all so in your opinion what crx should I be looking for? my old crx was a 89 si...... It has to be a 88-91

Cruise and power steering can both be taken from an Si later down the road, if you decided that you still wanted them. Power steering in a CRX makes no difference, though. It's not any harder to steer without it.

The worst EPA rating for the CRX is probably the '91 Si, which is the 108HP and 7200 RPM redline 5 speed model with the rear wiper and extra rear suspension components.

Suppose you probably want a 90-91 DX if you must have PS, but you still don't get cruise. Cruise was Si, if even those had it.

You should still go for the HF, but you can get better mileage even in an Si than you're getting in the Neon, without really trying.

Later on, you can learn how to swap parts over to get what you want from other 4th gen Civics, like power door locks, power windows, power folding mirrors, power steering, etc.

HF's (some) have A/C too.

RandomFact314 08-05-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 119793)
Cruise and power......................HF's (some) have A/C too.

oh lol I didn't know some of them did not come with a/c, I do want a/c but its not all that much of an issue b/c every car iv had has not had a/c so far so im not spoiled to it yet >.<

I wish I just still had my 89 si :( my dad thought that for some reason it was ok to drive my car (which i payed for) without asking and he was racing it and blew the engine :( :( He is a meth addict, that may explain some of his idiocy.

When I had my 2 Fieros he sawed off the catalytic converter off one without replacing any pipe to sell it for drugs and thought I would not notice :mad: he is probably the dumbest person I know and I'm glad I never have to see him. :)

PS: my MOM actually bought me a 88 or 89 maxima because she felt bad for me after my dad blew my crx so at least I still had a car...

Christ 08-05-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomFact314 (Post 119794)
oh lol I didn't know some of them did not come with a/c, I do want a/c but its not all that much of an issue b/c every car iv had has not had a/c so far so im not spoiled to it yet >.<

I wish I just still had my 89 si :( my dad thought that for some reason it was ok to drive my car (which i payed for) without asking and he was racing it and blew the engine :( :( He is a meth addict, that may explain some of his idiocy.

When I had my 2 Fieros he sawed off the catalytic converter off one without replacing any pipe to sell it for drugs and thought I would not notice :mad: he is probably the dumbest person I know and I'm glad I never have to see him. :)

PS: my MOM actually bought me a 88 or 89 maxima because she felt bad for me after my dad blew my crx so at least I still had a car...

LOLZ.

The only ones that came without A/C, IIRC, are the ones that were ordered without it.

I'd buy your Neon if it wasn't an auto... but I'm actually looking for a CRX shell myself.

SVOboy 08-06-2009 12:06 PM

You don't need power steering! Seriously! My CRX is easier to steer than the p/s equipped sentra I've driven for the last few days :)

Also, I think Christ answered the rest of the questions :)

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SVOboy (Post 119865)
You don't need power steering! Seriously! My CRX is easier to steer than the p/s equipped sentra I've driven for the last few days :)

Also, I think Christ answered the rest of the questions :)

What is IIRC?

Christ 08-07-2009 12:20 AM

IIRC - If I Remember/Recall Correctly

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 01:24 AM

So can anyone with a crx or that used to have one tell me if having the rear windshield wiper is worth it? Does it help a lot during rain, we seem to get it a lot down here sometimes...

Christ 08-07-2009 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomFact314 (Post 119968)
So can anyone with a crx or that used to have one tell me if having the rear windshield wiper is worth it? Does it help a lot during rain, we seem to get it a lot down here sometimes...

I've had 2 CRX's with rear wipers, 1 without, and Cara has one, but it doesn't work.

I don't use the inside mirror enough to care about the rear window, but on one of the CRX's, when I bought it, the wiper worked. I didn't use it for so long that moisture built up in the motor and froze it. As long as you clean your car once in awhile, you shouldn't have a problem, and airflow is attached there, so if you wax the glass, the water will sheet off fairly well.

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 119969)
I've had 2 CRX's with rear wipers, 1 without, and Cara has one, but it doesn't work.

I don't use the inside mirror enough to care about the rear window, but on one of the CRX's, when I bought it, the wiper worked. I didn't use it for so long that moisture built up in the motor and froze it. As long as you clean your car once in awhile, you shouldn't have a problem, and airflow is attached there, so if you wax the glass, the water will sheet off fairly well.

Oh yeah with the air flowing right over that perfect window angle, with some rain-x it probably would not be a problem :p I didn't think of that...

Christ 08-07-2009 02:11 AM

There's a few CRX HF's around here for <$1000 that you could get into, but a couple of them look less than new. (It's a 20 year old car, ya know.)

The best looking one needs the headlights adjusted severely... problem is, when you see headlights that are seriously out of whack, you should start looking for accident damage elsewhere on the car. It's fairly easy to hide accident damage on these cars.

You gonna buy me one, too? Since I keep giving you all my secrets and stuff... :P

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 03:27 AM

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There's a few CRX HF's around here for <$1000 that you could get into, but a couple of them look less than new. (It's a 20 year old car, ya know.)

The best looking one needs the headlights adjusted severely... problem is, when you see headlights that are seriously out of whack, you should start looking for accident damage elsewhere on the car. It's fairly easy to hide accident damage on these cars.

You gonna buy me one, too? Since I keep giving you all my secrets and stuff... :P

Ill buy ya something pretty if I could get 5k for my neon :D but I don't see that happening. BTW is it really all that bad if a car has been wrecked before (small wrecks)... My neon was wrecked after I was kid napped at gun point and the guy wrecked my car, after I fixed everything (like $800 :( ) it does not seem to have any problems at all...

http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1249626773 http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1249626773

Christ 08-07-2009 03:36 AM

I'm not saying it's not fixable, just that you'd have to address that issue, and it could be a point to help you get it cheaper.

Sucks that that happened to you... at least you had time to figure out if your Neon has an inside trunk release?

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 119979)
I'm not saying it's not fixable, just that you'd have to address that issue, and it could be a point to help you get it cheaper.

Sucks that that happened to you... at least you had time to figure out if your Neon has an inside trunk release?

LOL! :D yeah I was in there 8 hours looking for a trunk release :D and no it doesn't have one :( but it does have a wire that hangs down that was suppose to be connected to the truck for a ground or something and I thought that was it and I pulled on it for quite a while hoping for a pop but no go on that :o

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 03:50 AM

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Here is the douch bag that did it :mad:. The gun he had was a Remington 1100... http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1249627775

Christ 08-07-2009 03:50 AM

Go outside, pop your trunk, and look behind it where the key goes. You see the wire/rod in there? Pull on it.

Not that it's going to help you right now, but ya know, if you ever take a boot nap again, it might come in handy.

Also, sometimes you can just hit the latch from right where it latches to the loop on the body.

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 119982)
Also, sometimes you can just hit the latch from right where it latches to the loop on the body.

That would be the logical thing to do but I was scared as He*l at the time and could barely think straight :p

alohaspirit 08-07-2009 03:57 AM

ditto to hear what happened

im almost done fixing up my crx si to be road worthy

i will post a thread and gas logs when i get them

it doesnt have cruise, and i took off the rear wiper (there are good online tutorials)

until then, itll be my dd/beach car until the negotiations
go through on this 2001 civic im looking at ($3500)


... and parts are kinda hard to find (for me)

Christ 08-07-2009 04:00 AM

Understandable, given the situation. At least you didn't hit your head, and forget how to have a sense of humor. :P

RandomFact314 08-07-2009 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 119985)
Understandable, given the situation. At least you didn't hit your head, and forget how to have a sense of humor. :P

Yeah. If you want to see something Really funny (I just found it) go to: Dog Versus Man Dance Battle is Today's BIG Thing - AUG 03, 2009 and watch that video

RandomFact314 08-13-2009 07:38 PM

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Hey, Yeah I have always had pics of my crx on my computer but they were always pretty fussy, And I got to thinking, maybe it was the scanner I used at the time, so I found my crx pics and re-scanned them with a better, more expensive scanner... From those pics I realized.. I DID have a rear windshield wiper on my old crx :D See! ~best car EVER!~ http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1250203055

Christ 08-13-2009 08:03 PM

Clean rex... why don't you still have it?

RandomFact314 08-13-2009 08:12 PM

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Clean rex... why don't you still have it?

As it states in an above comment...
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1250205108

Christ 08-13-2009 11:01 PM

I remember. Sorry about your dad. (What a douche.)

alohaspirit 08-13-2009 11:58 PM

yeah that sucks dude


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