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Rick323 08-27-2013 07:57 AM

2015 GMC Canyon/ Chevy Colorado 4 cyl diesel
 
2015 Chevy Colorado, GMC Canyon To Offer I4 Duramax Diesel | GM Authority

Now if it has a manual transmission, I'm all in.;)

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 08-27-2013 11:24 AM

The versions currently available in Brazil have a manual transmission, but their torque rating is slightly lower than the automatic ones. Well, after the demise of the manual transmission in the American versions of the Silverado (altough they're still available in Mexico), I could expect this trend to be extended to the compact trucks.

kir_kenix 08-27-2013 05:43 PM

If it comes with a manual trans I'll trade my 2012 4 banger canyon in on one. It does ok mpg wise for a 4wd...but not great. It also struggles with my boat on steep inclines loaded near the max gvw (gear in the back/boat, passengers, etc).

Rick323 11-20-2013 05:14 AM

2015 Chevrolet Colorado brings modern amenities, diesel power to midsize pickup set - Autoblog

spacemanspif 11-20-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 387458)
The versions currently available in Brazil have a manual transmission, but their torque rating is slightly lower than the automatic ones. Well, after the demise of the manual transmission in the American versions of the Silverado (altough they're still available in Mexico), I could expect this trend to be extended to the compact trucks.

How do the international trucks do for fuel mileage, Rooster? Something tells me that the American ones will be choked down clean diesels that barely get 40mpg...

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-20-2013 02:41 PM

I wouldn't actually expect it to get better than 35MPG in highway with all that emissions crap...

JRMichler 11-20-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 400220)
I wouldn't actually expect it to get better than 35MPG in highway with all that emissions crap...

I get better than 35 MPG in summer. With a gas engine. Maybe I don't need a diesel..... :)

spacemanspif 11-20-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JRMichler (Post 400263)
I get better than 35 MPG in summer. With a gas engine. Maybe I don't need a diesel..... :)

BINGO!!!

New diesels are being choked down just like V8s in the 70s. The fuel sipping supremacy of diesels is long gone given the new emissions garbage they are adding to these engines.

Usually the cost of the diesel option is quite expensive, not to mention the expensive maintenance parts when it needs service. Consider cost of diesel engine vs gas, then of diesel fuel vs gas, and when you see that the diesel option in only getting 8 more mpg you see that its going to take a LONG time for your investment to pay for itself...

Now if there are tuners out there and kits to remove emissions stuff...I'm betting that modern diesels could be good for high 50mpg in small cars...but that is all speculation, I'm not completely familiar with new diesels and their potential...

user removed 11-20-2013 09:55 PM

Around here diesel goes for about 50 cents more per gallon than regular gas. My Ranger would have to average about 38 MPG to cover the cost of diesel versus regular.

The Fiesta would have to get 53 MPG.

regards
Mech

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-22-2013 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JRMichler (Post 400263)
I get better than 35 MPG in summer. With a gas engine. Maybe I don't need a diesel..... :)

But yours is smaller, lighter, aeromodded and has a manual transmission. The new one is a different animal, wider and with a large frontal area, and not so aeroynamic as it may eventually look from the pictures.

B440 11-22-2013 10:14 AM

I'm just waiting on details/pricing of the Colorado with Diesel. I tow a trailer almost every weekend. The torque is what I need.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-23-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by B440 (Post 400447)
The torque is what I need.

In the versions of the 2.8L fitted with the automatic transmission, the torque is the same as the Vortec 5300 V8.

niky 11-24-2013 09:30 AM

500 Nms, if I recall right, from the 200 hp version of the 2.8.

Pretty nippy motor.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-24-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by niky (Post 400635)
500 Nms, if I recall right, from the 200 hp version of the 2.8.

Eventually the U.S.-spec version is going to be slightly detuned due to all the emissions garbage, keeping in the 180hp/470Nm of the previous versions.

rmay635703 10-21-2015 10:19 AM

I like how the 2015 Colorado diesel never materialized, became a 2016 and is well on its way to also not materialize.

Hersbird 10-21-2015 11:29 AM

The EPA rating might only be 30 mpg but I bet most drivers beat that. The 1500 Ram is only rated at 28 mpg but normal people are well into the 30's. Add some ecomodder tricks to the list and I bet you could beat 35 pretty easy. At least for now diesel cost less then unlead here. The problem is it is over $30,000, as is the Ram even a year old used is over $30k.

kafer65 10-21-2015 07:57 PM

TheFastLaneTruck has a U-tube video with the diesel Canyon towing a New Corvette. They also have Frontier diesel test drive video. I was fuming for a while over not getting the diesel Mazda CX-5 but I'm over it now.

rmay635703 10-22-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kafer65 (Post 497240)
TheFastLaneTruck has a U-tube video with the diesel Canyon towing a New Corvette. They also have Frontier diesel test drive video. I was fuming for a while over not getting the diesel Mazda CX-5 but I'm over it now.

Thats all well and good but I can't configure and order one from their site, only gas models

Rick323 10-22-2015 02:38 PM

Plenty of diesel Colorados/Canyons are being ordered according to the Coloradofans website. Gmc had 2.8l option on its build page, but no price-but that has disappeared. There is still an option on the GMC build page that is the diesel option (I think its the exhaust brake), but it is not listed as such. The price for that option is over $3750+ and it deletes the v6 option.

Hersbird 10-22-2015 04:26 PM

I went on the page and was able to price one. They didn't list the motor but when you checked a different mandatory "option" the diesel required it added the motor as well. I can't remember what that option was now but it ended up over $30k for a 4x4 4 door. It's also only available on the off road or top trim package.

Edit: it was the exhaust brake option. The total MSRP was $35,090.

rmay635703 10-22-2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hersbird (Post 497346)
I went on the page and was able to price one. They didn't list the motor but when you checked a different mandatory "option" the diesel required it added the motor as well. I can't remember what that option was now but it ended up over $30k for a 4x4 4 door. It's also only available on the off road or top trim package.

Edit: it was the exhaust brake option. The total MSRP was $35,090.

I want an extended cab, long box, 2wd diesel with an MT, must be impossible.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-03-2015 09:17 PM

Since the ones fitted with manual transmission have a lower torque rating, I'd rather get an automatic.

rmay635703 11-03-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 498385)
Since the ones fitted with manual transmission have a lower torque rating, I'd rather get an automatic.

I still rather have a manual, even if FWD only.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-03-2015 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 498388)
I still rather have a manual, even if FWD only.

FWD? But the 2WD versions are still RWD. Anyway, if the manual versions had the same torque rating of the automatic I'd probably also prefer a manual. BTW it really bothers me that Chevy has distinct torque ratings for manual and automatic, while Ford offers the Ranger with the same torque rating for both transmission options.

rmay635703 11-03-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 498391)
FWD? But the 2WD versions are still RWD. Anyway, if the manual versions had the same torque rating of the automatic I'd probably also prefer a manual. BTW it really bothers me that Chevy has distinct torque ratings for manual and automatic, while Ford offers the Ranger with the same torque rating for both transmission options.

In the US there is no manual version so the torque rating is meaningless, unless I cludge in an NV3500

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 11-03-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rmay635703 (Post 498397)
In the US there is no manual version so the torque rating is meaningless

And in many other markets, manual transmission still outnumbers the automatic. It's a shame they won't even offer it in the US not even as an option...


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