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NeilBlanchard 07-09-2015 12:32 PM

2016 Toyota Prius (photos, specifications, Cd 0.24)
 
Is this the 2016 Prius?

Is this the next Toyota Prius? | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-1_653.jpg
http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-2_653.jpg
http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-3_653.jpg

The car with the black grill is apparently the plugin model, which may have a electric range of ~30 miles.

I am still digesting this design. The engine is claimed to be 40% efficient (up from 38% of the current Prius), which is great. We hopefully will know more soon.

Daox 07-09-2015 12:40 PM

Jalopnik also posted those pictures. They also google translated a document that showed a ~7.5-8% increase in fuel efficiency on the Japansese test cycle. It also showed 10-15 more horsepower.

Is This The 2016 Toyota Prius?

vskid3 07-09-2015 02:11 PM

Both look pretty bad. What is up with the rear end?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 07-09-2015 03:08 PM

That's too ugly. I doubt they'll release it that way in overseas markets.

Baltothewolf 07-09-2015 03:14 PM

You gentlemen underestimate the stupidity of auto makers.

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 07-09-2015 03:21 PM

I never underestimate the capacity of Jap automakers to make ugly econoboxes. In this case, they took ugly to a higher level...

markweatherill 07-09-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr (Post 486278)
That's too ugly. I doubt they'll release it that way in overseas markets.

That's what I said about the Mirai...

RedDevil 07-09-2015 03:35 PM

It reminds me of the FCV Concept...
http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00447151_l.jpg
As I predicted!

Toned down hugely, it still bears some of the style.

Joris 07-09-2015 03:47 PM

Looking at the 2015 Toyota Avensis for example, the blue Prius could be considered production ready. The green one however is horrible.

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...os-92896_1.jpg

MetroMPG 07-09-2015 04:19 PM

Yay for increased efficiency.

But...

It's so ugly it's going to drive up prices in the used market for previous generation Prii! Just my luck. :D

nimblemotors 07-09-2015 05:16 PM

The car doesn't look any worse than other new cars.
The latest style are those odd front grills right now.

The pic looks like the rear roofline area might taper inward, maybe just an illusion.

Vman455 07-09-2015 06:03 PM

I doubt either of those are what it will look like; these look like somebody's "wish list" drawing, and it's pretty clear they started with a picture of the current Prius.

For example, look at the mirrors in the drawings:

http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-1_653.jpg

...and compare to the 2015 Prius' mirrors:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/h...00485217_h.jpg

Both test mules--the earlier version and the hasty redesign--have mirrors with stalks that attach on the window, not door panel:

http://www.2016toyotamodel.com/wp-co...spy-photos.jpg

http://content.worldcarfans.co/2013/...4274362619.jpg
(First prototype, allegedly scrapped because the design wasn't "sporty" enough)

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg

http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg
(Second prototype)

The overall shape of the drawings isn't anywhere close to the same as the prototype, either, especially the top of the rear window, but also backlight angle, front and rear overhang, max camber point on the roof, and shape of the hatch and bumper cover.

whatmaycome14 07-09-2015 06:08 PM

I like the real photos... looks good to me!

Baltothewolf 07-09-2015 06:59 PM

What's with the black mesh on the car?

vskid3 07-09-2015 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf (Post 486327)
What's with the black mesh on the car?

Its to hide the details of the car before the design is officially released (resulting in threads like this). Sometimes they use black and white swirl patterns to camouflage the lines instead.

That test mule looks much better than those drawings.

The Other Andy 07-09-2015 10:54 PM

I honestly don't mind the drawings all that much. They do make me wonder what the Prius V will look like.

Vman455 07-10-2015 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 486296)
Yay for increased efficiency.

But...

It's so ugly it's going to drive up prices in the used market for previous generation Prii! Just my luck. :D

Actually, now would be the time to buy a new, 2015 Prius...low gas prices, an aging design (with all the kinks, safety recalls, and bugs worked out already), and dealers trying to clear inventory before the new car arrives, you can get a screaming deal. TrueCar says you could pick one up in my area for $19,800--more than $5,000 below MSRP.

It wouldn't be much of a winter beater, though.:p

NeilBlanchard 08-19-2015 01:11 PM

We will see the 2016 Prius on September 8th.

4th Generation 2016 Prius U.S. Reveal - Sept. 8th - CleanMPG Forums

MetroMPG 08-21-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard (Post 486255)

Yes it is.

Un-camo'd spy shots today: 2017 Toyota Prius: This Is It

MetroMPG 08-21-2015 02:12 PM

I think the value of my winter beater 2004 Prius just went up. :)

gone-ot 08-21-2015 02:20 PM

What are they gonna call that wind-vent pillar? The " ½A " piller.

Vman455 08-21-2015 07:02 PM

I was really hoping they would go with a face more like the Corolla's.

More pictures here.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/15...ee-quarter.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/15...-side-look.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/15...d-at-night.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/15...-side-view.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/15...hatch-open.jpg

MetroMPG 08-21-2015 08:31 PM

I also get the impression they're trying to make it look less "hatchback-y". Like the 2016 Volt.

gone-ot 08-21-2015 08:31 PM

Toyota's pre-release 'marketing' reminds me of a burlesque dance show (wink,wink)

If you know what I mean, take a little off here, a little off there, but NEVER everything off (ha,ha)!

MetroMPG 08-21-2015 08:36 PM

Ostrich feathers... needs more ostrich feathers! :D

Vman455 08-21-2015 08:57 PM

This really makes me wonder what the first design looked like, the one Akio Toyoda allegedly hated and sent the designers back to try again, delaying this new model. Wouldn't it be awful if that one was a normal-looking, attractive, functional design while what we get stuck with in production is this mish-mash of random creases and inexplicable lines?

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...-4-69010_1.jpg

This render appeared some time back; someone grafted a modified Corolla front end on a 3rd-gen Prius body and fixed some of the details, like the mirrors, to match up with the camouflaged prototypes (this was back when they were testing the first iteration, which had a roof shape more like the current car). I thought the result looked fantastic, and now it only makes the actual car more disappointing.

MetroMPG 08-21-2015 09:19 PM

3rd gen is my favourite Prius look.

Vman455 08-21-2015 09:23 PM

Also, here's an interesting exercise--the streamlining template overlaid on 3rd-gen and 4th-gen Prius:

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9dfflgao.jpg

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/...psfayg6apd.jpg

Max camber point has been moved forward to the B pillar, it looks like, and the rear glass angle is significantly shallower.

gone-ot 08-21-2015 09:34 PM

Which is it? Toyota mimicing the GM Volt...or...GM minicing the GenIV Prius?

cRiPpLe_rOoStEr 08-23-2015 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Tele man (Post 490788)
Which is it? Toyota mimicing the GM Volt...or...GM minicing the GenIV Prius?

If the Japs were mimicking the Volt, the Prius would actually look better. Anyway, just like the Corolla has different versions around the world, including a narrow-body one targetted to Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong and the JDM station-wagon which is also available in New Zealand, why couldn't Toyota make different bodystyles for the Prius to suit different markets and design preferences? What might look appealing to a Southeast Asian might eventually be deemed odd for a Western, for example.

NeilBlanchard 08-31-2015 09:31 AM

2016 Prius without camouflage
 
2016 Prius without camouflage:

2016 Toyota Prius spy photo completely undisguised | DPCcars

http://www.dpccars.com/blog/wp-conte...isguised-1.jpg
http://www.dpccars.com/blog/wp-conte...isguised-2.jpg

Daox 08-31-2015 09:35 AM

Hard to tell from the close pictures, but it doesn't seem as horrible as I thought it would. :)

RedDevil 08-31-2015 09:42 AM

I just realized that the oddly shaped sculptures of last century's 60s weren't abstract after all - they are head- and taillights :)

gone-ot 08-31-2015 04:37 PM

Agreed, that front end is NOT as FUGLY as early illustrations implied.

However, that *back-end* (below the lower rear window) is gonna be a MAJOR dust & dirt "catcher" for sure!

niky 08-31-2015 11:32 PM

Well... they succeeded in creating the illusion of having less rear headroom than a sardine can.

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Also, those headlights seem purposefully designed. The purpose, in this case, is assuring they'll crack in any and all front-end collisions. Computer-designed to be vulnerable at any angle.

redpoint5 09-01-2015 02:46 AM

Looks fine to me. Also, I didn't purchase my Prius to get the ladies. I spend 99.9% of my time looking at the inside of the car and 0.1% looking at the outside of it. Consider the Prius to be shallow women repellant.

RedDevil 09-01-2015 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niky (Post 491828)
Well... they succeeded in creating the illusion of having less rear headroom than a sardine can.

It is not so bad.
From the first post:
http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-3_653.jpg
You can see the highest point is behind the B pillar, and at the top of the C pillar, about as far back as the heads of the rear passengers will be, the height is still approx. 145 cm.
Many cars are lower than that.

The styling kind of grows on you.
The 3rd gen Prius I saw in the wild this morning suddenly looked outdated.
Guess I could live with it.
If only it had an H badge :)

What worries me are the blacked out D pillars and strip above the rear window.
Those optical illusions may be what will make this version look outdated in the future.

niky 09-01-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDevil (Post 491836)
It is not so bad.
From the first post:
http://lln.mnmcdn.com/photos/content...leak-3_653.jpg
You can see the highest point is behind the B pillar, and at the top of the C pillar, about as far back as the heads of the rear passengers will be, the height is still approx. 145 cm.
Many cars are lower than that.

The styling kind of grows on you.
The 3rd gen Prius I saw in the wild this morning suddenly looked outdated.
Guess I could live with it.
If only it had an H badge :)

What worries me are the blacked out D pillars and strip above the rear window.
Those optical illusions may be what will make this version look outdated in the future.

As I said... it gives the *illusion* of no rear headroom... even if it does have a higher rear roofline than the old car. (Whose backseat, in my experience, is wonderfully spacious)

It's as if Toyota asked themselves: "What would signal buyers that this car is insanely impractical, even if it isn't?"

The headlights, I think, will date the car. Lots of bare reflector that does nothing... which is weird, considering Toyota/Lexus elsewhere uses freeform headlights that make use of the entire fixture, thanks to LED lighting.

Reducing it to slashes of purposeful LED strips and projectors would have made a more appealing fashion statement than flat pieces of chrome reflector behind acres of clear plastic that'll turn yellow in a few years.

RedDevil 09-01-2015 09:42 AM

Toyota won't sell the Prius if it mimics an ordinary car.
It derives its right of existence from being different.
Its selling point is its fuel economy, of course, but it has to stand out somehow. Fuel consumption is just a number.
The Prius is fuel economy with a Flash Gordon cape. For the Look at Me! I'm Saving the Planet crowd. (*)

And for those who can't bear the showy exterior there's the Auris with the same technology. People who buy that don't like the wild styling. They probably would not appreciate anything halfway in between either.

The second gen was much less wildly styled, but then it had that shape. That was enough excitement at the time.
The third gens style was already somewhat sharper as one got accustomed to the shape.
But somewhat does not cut it this time.

I suspect Toyota will sell this in huge numbers again.

(*) I'm fully aware there are other reasons why people buy Priuses, like its technology, refined operation, reliability, etc.

niky 09-01-2015 11:09 AM

I can fully dig looking different. No problems there.

It's just that elements of the design don't work very well.

Toyota has been on a design bonanza these past few years. Some of the wacky stuff they're doing works. Some of it, not so much.


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