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abshnasko 08-03-2008 01:53 AM

95 Civic EX - Too much power
 
Hi all, I have a 95 civic EX with a D16Z6 motor. It's a quick car, but when driven sanely it doesn't get near the MPG the DX (base level) model does. The EX puts out about 125hp vs the DX puts out about 105hp.

Is there any way I can reverse this? I would much rather have less power and more mpg. Thoughts?

tomtom 08-21-2008 11:39 PM

taller gearing.

ESmooth 08-21-2008 11:51 PM

What kind of MPG are you getting? I have a 98EX that has become my MPG project as of just this week. Been getting about 30MPG but my goal is to move that up around 40 using various techniques Ive learned about. Still on my 1st tank but the results are already pretty dramatic based on the miles i've put on the tank and where the gas gauge is reading compared to what ive seen in the past.

abshnasko 08-22-2008 12:54 AM

I mean I get about 35mpg avg after doing some minor mods (thermostat, tire pressure, etc) but with the way I, drive, especially on the highway, I feel like I deserve ~45mpg. If I had a DX I'd be hitting 45 easy because I used to have one, and I got 42mpg without even trying.

Daox 08-22-2008 08:28 AM

Pulse and glide is really the best way to effectively negate an overpowered engine (which IMO we ALL have, except maybe the XFIs). There are other things that will help, but that'll give you the largest gains.

PaleMelanesian 08-22-2008 10:16 AM

I agree - pulse & glide. Even the DX has stupid-short gear ratios. I get low 40's with the cruise control at 65 on the highway. Lower speed, combined with P&G puts me in the upper 60's and sometimes over 70 mpg.

MetroMPG 08-22-2008 10:29 AM

I think even an XFi is overpowered for its weight! At least that's how I feel after switching from the 2100 lb EV with ~20 peak hp to the extravagantly powerful 49 hp Blackfly.

Quote:

but when driven sanely
Define "sane" driving. And do you have a ScanGauge?

PaleMelanesian 08-22-2008 10:38 AM

Oh, yes. Absolutely get a Scangauge. Get it now, and you won't regret it.

Will 08-22-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetroMPG (Post 55341)
I think even an XFi is overpowered for its weight! At least that's how I feel after switching from the 2100 lb EV with ~20 peak hp to the extravagantly powerful 49 hp Blackfly.

Oh yeah, The 3 cylinders of screamin' fury, baby! The 1 Liter of Doom!!! :thumbup:

honda_joe 08-22-2008 04:58 PM

You can look into getting a CX/VX transmission. They have longer gears plus you can find them cheap.

You can't get a scangauge (95's were OBD-I)

MetroMPG 08-22-2008 05:04 PM

Forgot about the '95/ScanGauge issue. But you can do a MPGuino.

Welcome to the forum, honda joe.

Bror Jace 08-22-2008 10:42 PM

Warm air intake and use 5W20 oil.

j12piprius 02-28-2011 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honda_joe (Post 55445)
You can look into getting a CX/VX transmission. They have longer gears plus you can find them cheap.

There's a 2000 EX manual 5 speed with 105k miles for sale here for $4200.

I think the mileage for this model is not very good.

Would it help to change the transmission, and how much would that cost?

Cd 02-28-2011 04:51 PM

YKYAEM when you think a Metro is overpowered :-P

bt-fit- 03-01-2011 10:44 AM

I'd look into a D16Y5 eninge from a 96-00 Civic HX. It's vtec-e and shouldn't be a hard swap since you're EX is already equipped with a D series vtec engine. As with all Honda swaps, engine tranny and ECU from the HX should be considered. Or find some highschooler who just got a DX and wants moar powah and trade him. More fibre (Carbon) in your diet would also help and turn heads......little too much $$ tho. but aftermarket support for these cars is unbelievable

bt-fit- 03-01-2011 10:56 AM

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PaleMelanesian 03-01-2011 11:19 AM

Eh, the engine isn't the worst part. It's the gear ratios. If you're going to swap anything, get the transmission out of a 96+ HX, or even better a 92-95 CX/VX.


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