alternating valve engine
I have invented and patented an alternating valve engine that will function just fine using 15 pound valve springs instead of the 150 (or so) pound springs in your motor. calulations indicate the energy savings from stiff to light springs will near double or more the fuel milage in a small or medium sized auto...send me your e-mail address and i'll forward to you attachments as to how it works...thanks jim whitmer...
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So, you're saying that just reducing the resistance of the springs will cut fuel consumption in half?
Colour me skeptical :) |
please send me your e-mail address and i will forward attachments that contain data so you can decide for yourself...jim whitmer... 405 751 4521 if you want to chit chat....or... j.whitmer@cox.net
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It takes more energy to compress the valve springs on a four valve per cylinder engine than it does to push you down the road at 70 MPH... 405 751 4521 or j.whitmer@cox.net
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I almost believe this.
150lb x 4 springs squished down 1/2" (i have no idea how far springs go down) 300lbs of power per "inch". Then multiply x engine RPMs. 2k @ highway. valves open one time per rpm but there are 2 sets of valves. So we're back at 600lbs per "inch" idk how much it takes in pounds to move a car down the road. 1 "inch" happens every rotation of the crank. ...i just made up stuff. lmao |
I've already made my decision.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...lflaughing.gif That energy used to compress springs, minus friction, is largely recovered when the springs decompress. |
to all who have an interest...please send me your e-mail address and i'll forward to you attachments that explains the alternating valve engine...i'm old and near computer dum...(or is it dumb?)...I can't learn how to send an attachment thru this foreum...thanks for your interest....jim 405 751 4521 anytime...
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my e-mail address is j.whitmer@cox.net
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You really need to be upfront and state your purpose and state EXACTLY what you think you have, not making lame excuses, nobody buys "I'm to old to do attachments".
Hmm... lola gt - GT40s.com Do you have a patent number? |
I will post it, but I disagree with it. The spring pushes back just as hard as you pushed it down.
.......here it is That didn't work. |
He's either put in a desmodromic valvetrain, or the idle speed is also the redline.
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BUT, the valves themselves are reciprocating, and have mass, so that the faster you spin the camshaft, the more force it takes to jerk the valve open, which is lost energy. As well I suspect that the springs do not return as much energy at higher speeds as they have to use some energy to accelerate the valve in the closed direction. |
alternating valve engine
why are some of you guys so nasty and negitive ? You havent even read the patent description write up yet? jim whitmer 405 751 4521 j.whitmer@cox .net there is a saying as follows......contemp prior to investigation will leave a man in everlasting ignorance....If you dont want to know about my patented engine....then leave me alone...I'm the one who has the 4 million dollars coming to develope it ...not you!
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Well the first red flag was "double or more the economy".
It didn't get any better after that. |
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alternating valve engine
You are asking me a direct question ? I'll give you a direct answer...none of your business...now leave me alone....I got on this foreum to share some things, not ask for opinions or request debates.....leave me alone...just as soon as I can figure out how to unsubscribe to this cult I'll do so.....
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thinking i might have to convert my engine
but think about it, going from 150lb to 15lb is only a 90% reduction. what a waste!!! thats why 2 strokes have the best powerbands, no valve springs... in addition, i found this product to further enhance my efficiency and performance Piston Return Spring - $14.99 : KaleCoAuto, Hard to find automotive items! KaleCoAuto piston return springs FORCE the pistons back into the motor, no longer relying on gravity! This effectively increases your revs, horsepower, and peak torque! |
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That's thinkin' wif yer dipstick, Jimmy!
Sorry to see you go... when you man up and come back, be sure to PM me, so I don't miss the thread. |
Jim, you're not related to Dave, are you?
I didn't think so. |
I tried to do some figuring on the losses to the reciprocating mass of the valves, not sure how good I did but it came out to about .05 hp at 5000 rpm on a v8.
Pretty sure that doesn't account for doubling mpg. And if that is $4mil in tax money, Jim damn well should be discussing it in public, IMHO. I'll make it my business. |
think i'll wait for a large scale version of these anyway
Camless 4 Stroke Cycle I.C. Engines with Solenoid Operated Valves. index |
Sure, if the valves take that little energy (comparatively) to open and close then let a computer control them and ditch the throttle.
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Figured I'd post this just for fun. Evidently it's for sale "REAL CHEAP"
http://ecomodder.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1251174442 Good reading for any cult member |
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The Crane Cam boys have forgotten more about valvetrains than the rest of us will ever know. |
unh... the patent number mentioned in that pdf is for something completely different, from like 1979?!?
Temperature actuated foundation ventilator - Patent 4290554 |
The Whitmer 8 Cycle Engine uses only only one of the existing two intake valves opening and closing during the first two cycles and only only one of the existing two exhaust valves opening and closing during the next two cycles
so you leave an intake valve open for 2cycles.... wouldnt the second cycle be the piston moving up, pushing the air back out? |
I think the concept is just that of a 4-cycle VTEC-E system except it alternates which valve is open, no that they're open longer.
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but then the individual valve would have to move just as fast, but only every other time
i thought he was trying to move the valves at half speed |
I think he's just confusing the issue by saying they move half the speed instead of saying half the frequency
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why wouldnt you need normal springs then, light springs might not exactly float, but they wouldnt close when they should
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oh wait... maybe hes an idiot
^ that wasnt very nice |
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just scammin for capital to build theoretical engines...... whats wrong with that?
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Cool I'm part of a cult!!!
One dream full filled. |
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The concept is flawed.
Jim, the valve overlap would be such that the invention might as well be an engine with no valves. |
I got the download from Jim, and I hinted that his Patent agent might be taking advantage of him. There was not even a rationale for using the valves alternately, instead of leaving one closed. I havn't heard back from him.
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What is the concept?
None of the claims made any sense. None. For example, double the rpm? The valvetrain isn't the only limiting factor. I'm not gonna be able to rev my Tempo to 13 grand no matter what I do to the valvetrain because the mass of the rotating assembly becomes a limiting factor long before then. High rpm engines are able to do so cuz they are designed to, not by accident. |
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