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Old 11-13-2010, 02:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, this is where all the venture capitalists hang out.
Ummm Frank- Please re-read... Its advice I am looking for not money. I was really hoping someone here had experience in selling one of their own ideas or product.

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Old 11-13-2010, 02:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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...get your lawyer talking with their lawyer(s).

...ain't nothing gonna happen until that happens.
There is a huge gap in this scenario- IE where does the initial contact come from- my lawyer? I am sure that isnt in most attorneys services.
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Look you really need a marketing specialist with the right contacts, more so than a lawyer.

Most newspapers (in Australia) allow you to pay to get a journo to interview you and then an article printed (proportional in size to the amount you pay), so that it doesn't come across as advertising.

If you have the finances I would get this done in one of the major papers within the states that major companies reside.

You could use the article to challenge the major corporations and/or Government into making this product compulsory or at least testing your claim on a larger scale and then explain to the public why they won't legislate it if it works.

I'm sure the Department of Energy over there would happily run further independent testing of their own and even if the claim is only half as great as you say, you can bet your house that it will filter up the chain of command and finally get of the ground.

That's my 2 mins worth or advice.

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OK I re-read and conclude that a 15-20% fe gain claim puts this squarely in the snake-oil category.
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What sort of improvement in mechanical efficiency are we talking about with this product?
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15-20% off reducing friction??????

You might reduce friction by that amount but to get that much more MPG you have to reduce friction a huge amount (no friction). Oil does a great job of reducing friction. also friction losses are not the FE killer. Its the design of the ICE that kills MPG, we get 25% of the BTU's in gas as usable energy the rest is lost as waste heat.

Show me the hard numbers or this is snake oil or BS. Sorry this just seems out of the realm of possibility.
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