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2016 Versa 10-17-2019 01:34 PM

Anyone Use Xado
 
Just wondering if anyone else has used Xado in their vehicles and what you think about the product. The recommended dosage for an engine is 3-9ml tubes or one 27ml. tube My Versa doesn't have many miles and I know there would be minimal wear to the engine so I only added a single 9ml tube that I still had from an order several years ago and is all I plan to to put in it for a while. The reason I added it was to try to prevent wear and hopefully increase mileage. I added it to the oil at the last oil change approximately 1200 miles ago and I've ran 2 tanks of gas through it since, one tank the mileage was 49.34 the other at 47.53 MPG. At about 200 miles on the current tank the Ultra Gauge is reporting about 49 MPG. I have noticed since I added the Xado that I see more instant MPG readouts in the 80-100 MPG range on the same stretch of road than I did prior to putting it in the engine. This isn't the first car that I've used it in. I also added a single tube to my '97 Escort several years ago and saw the mileage increase on it as well after putting it in. It's been so long since I put it in the '97 I don't remember the exact amount of increase I saw in mileage but I do remember it being a noticeable increase. I wasn't keeping a log on that car. If anyone is interested in trying it in their car it's pretty cheap now. There's a seller on eBay that sells the 27ml tube for $10. I am not that seller so I'm not just trying to drum up business. I remember when it first was put on the market it was something like $100 for a full 27ml treatment. I didn't pay that much for the first I bought I waited for the price to come down before trying it.

If I knew it wouldn't hurt anything I'd put a tube of the automatic transmission formula in the CVT on the Versa since they're problematic as it is but, I don't think I'm going to try it in the transmission unless at some point down the line it starts giving problems then I'll see if makes any improvement to it before replacing a transmission.

MetroMPG 10-17-2019 01:43 PM

I'm skeptical for the usual reasons:


Thread: So you want to talk up your new fuel-saving product on EcoModder...





I'm not disputing that you're not selling anything. But additives are notoriously hard to test, and the sellers count on this fact.

2016 Versa 10-17-2019 03:52 PM

As I said in my previous post I'm not profiting in any way. The stretch of road I was talking about noticing higher instant MPG numbers on the Ultra Gauge is a stretch I drive pretty often and always have the c/c set at the same speed. I know there are lots of things that factor into MPG and I'm not saying the product does or doesn't work. It just seems that on both cars I've used it in mileage seems to have increased. I'll be watching my mileage closely over the next few tanks to see if my numbers increase/decrease or stay the same. We're already having some temperatures in 30's-40's at night and the use of winter blend I assume has started so I'd be expecting my mileage to soon show some, even if minimal decrease. The main reason I started the thread wasn't to promote the product I was just wondering if anyone else had used it and what their results were. I even documented the mileage on the car in my garage so I could check the results against previous numbers several tanks later. Whenever I do check it out after several tanks I'm not going to include the data from the first tank I ran though the car because it was the lowest mileage I've had to date and I was just getting use to the car and trying to figure out the best way to drive it for FE plus there was an unusual amount of wet roads on that tank.

Shaneajanderson 10-18-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 2016 Versa (Post 609638)
As I said in my previous post I'm not profiting in any way. The stretch of road I was talking about noticing higher instant MPG numbers on the Ultra Gauge is a stretch I drive pretty often and always have the c/c set at the same speed. I know there are lots of things that factor into MPG and I'm not saying the product does or doesn't work. It just seems that on both cars I've used it in mileage seems to have increased. I'll be watching my mileage closely over the next few tanks to see if my numbers increase/decrease or stay the same. We're already having some temperatures in 30's-40's at night and the use of winter blend I assume has started so I'd be expecting my mileage to soon show some, even if minimal decrease. The main reason I started the thread wasn't to promote the product I was just wondering if anyone else had used it and what their results were. I even documented the mileage on the car in my garage so I could check the results against previous numbers several tanks later. Whenever I do check it out after several tanks I'm not going to include the data from the first tank I ran though the car because it was the lowest mileage I've had to date and I was just getting use to the car and trying to figure out the best way to drive it for FE plus there was an unusual amount of wet roads on that tank.

The only way I could see this maybe helping fuel economy is if it were to help seal up worn piston rings a bit. If it's thick enough to do that, it's thick enough to clog stuff elsewhere.

Modern oil, even the cheap basic stuff, is Very good, so I really wouldn't expect any off the shelf additives to do much to improve it.

2016 Versa 10-18-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaneajanderson (Post 609702)
The only way I could see this maybe helping fuel economy is if it were to help seal up worn piston rings a bit. If it's thick enough to do that, it's thick enough to clog stuff elsewhere.

Modern oil, even the cheap basic stuff, is Very good, so I really wouldn't expect any off the shelf additives to do much to improve it.

The additive is not claiming to improve the oil quality. Their claim is it bonds to, fills in abnormalities, increases compression on worn engines, and creates a thin really smooth ceramic coating on the cylinder walls and bearings causing less friction. It should last about 62K miles without another treatment if you use a full dose which I didn't. I only used 1/3 of dose because my engine only has 16K miles on it and should have very minimal wear. If I do see an improvement in MPG I'll probably put in a second tube in about 20K miles. Its not real thick. I squeezed the contents into a quart of oil and shook it up to mix the two then poured it into the engine and I couldn't tell any difference in the oil viscosity.

Shaneajanderson 10-18-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2016 Versa (Post 609709)
The additive is not claiming to improve the oil quality. Their claim is it bonds to, fills in abnormalities, increases compression on worn engines, and creates a thin really smooth ceramic coating on the cylinder walls and bearings causing less friction. It should last about 62K miles without another treatment if you use a full dose which I didn't. I only used 1/3 of dose because my engine only has 16K miles on it and should have very minimal wear. If I do see an improvement in MPG I'll probably put in a second tube in about 20K miles. Its not real thick. I squeezed the contents into a quart of oil and shook it up to mix the two then poured it into the engine and I couldn't tell any difference in the oil viscosity.

Confirmed my first suspicion, it's meant to plug the gap between the cylinder wall and the rings.

Filling in pores with a "ceramic" is frankly nothing but marketing BS. Putting any kind of ceramic into an engine's oiling system would be an utter disaster as ceramics are both extremely hard, and abrasive.

All this is is another high film strength additive that sticks to the rings a little better than oil, which could cause a slight improvement in a well-worn engine. However, while it does that it is displacing proper engine oil which is (well) designed to prevent wear in the first place.

Simple preventative maintenance is key, not snake oil additives. A well maintained engine that isn't a known lemon should be able to run for 500k miles very easily, provided the rest of the vehicle holds together. Number one culprit for non crash related scrap-outs of cars is automatic transmission failure, and many of these case still run quite well.


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